In a message dated 2/28/09 1:07:54 PM, [email protected] writes:

> You 
> have said, "the quality resides in the object." My position is not only that 
> 
> your assertion about the location of "qualities" is wrong, but that 
> "qualities" 
> -- as entities in the world outside our minds -- don't exist at all. 
> 
> Note: I do believe in the non-mental world, the "material" world. I'm with 
> you in your belief in "raw material" "out there". Note further that I'm not 
> denying solely the existence of merely "judgmental qualities" -- goodness, 
> badness, niceness, kindness, prettiness, pettiness. I'm denying the 
> non-mental 
> existence of hardness, redness, tigerness, waterness. To begin to convey my 
> 

It is our minds we are discussing, and not the minds of the material world if 
there are any.
When we say that an object has a quality,we mean that our minds perceive it 
as having a quality. It is the mental construct we are discussing and what is 
meant by that. 
Kate Sulllivan


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