perception is our construction of sensation. So whatever is out there is 
mediated by perception.  That's one reason we devise various ways to "correct" 
our perceptions.  
WC

--- On Sat, 2/28/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Good Art Exists
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 3:42 PM
> In a message dated 2/28/09 3:36:20 PM,
> [email protected] writes:
> 
> 
> > What is it that we perceive? Undifferentiated raw
> material? a whole 
> > bunch of substance? Or do we project objectness from
> our interior 
> > thinking?
> >
> > No. Objects are already differentiated in nature, and
> our sensory 
> > organs are able to perceive them, to distinguish one
> from the other, 
> > and parts within individual objects.
> >
> Depending on what you have in mind with the word
> 'perceive', I agree with
> you. I think there are raw material objects "out
> there", and they are
> "differentiated", "separate".
> 'Parts', by the way, entails a stipulative
> notion. How many
> "parts" does your face have?
> 
> As for 'perceive', some use the word as you and I
> tend to do. When we
> encounter a material object and "sense" with our
> various senses, we say we're
> perceiving the object. Others say, No, no -- we can only
> "perceive"
> sensations.   The
> distinction is effectively vacuous, just a disagreement
> about how to use a
> word.
> 
> 
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