In art rotten is better to others, so what is the point?
mando
On Apr 23, 2009, at 4:15 PM, [email protected] wrote:

The first part of your question is an unnatural state.
If we want compare taste of all ripe apples we have to eat all of them.
Boris Shoshensky

---------- Original Message ----------
From: armando baeza <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: armando baeza <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Heidegger and thingness
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:13:56 -0700

Lets assume that all apples are alike, and taste a little different
and ripe. which one is the best ?
mando

On Apr 21, 2009, at 10:39 PM, [email protected] wrote:

Lets assume we all like apples. We have apple tree with some fruits
which are
not ripe yet, ripe just right and already rotten.
We have three choices: picking all kinds, no kind or only the best
with the most goodness for the body. What is the best practical
decision to
make ? Picking and choosing.
Boris Shoshensky
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Heidegger and thingness
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:12:53 GMT

There would seem to be three possible responses to  an ideology:
subscription,
rejection, and selection (i.e. picking and choosing favorable
elements).

Regarding the one under discussion (call it German Idealism?) --
here's how
our group seems to be sorting out:

*subscription: (Saul, Luc)
*rejection: (Cheerskep, Mando, Miller)
*picking and choosing: William, Boris, Kate

In response the query that began this thread, it's interesting that
even Saul
did not find M.H.'s  discussion of thingness to be  especially
enlightening.
(i.e. -- it's just Kantian discourse embedded in MH's phenomenology).

I suppose there's no point in arguing matters of faith -- either you
subscribe
to Kantian discourse, or you don't -- but I do think that the
middle ground
is
very problematic - since it's an essentialist program -- and if you're
rejecting the essentials, you're rejecting the whole thing.

And there have been some rather catastrophic consequences when
branches of
this discourse, Marxism and Fascism,  were adopted by totalitarian
regimes in
the previous century.

(regarding the dire consequences of German idealism in the artworld, I
suppose
that's just a matter of taste)




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