sure, let's have some apple plie & ice cream, i know a great place in brooklyn. luc
----- Original Message ---- From: armando baeza <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: armando baeza <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:26:33 PM Subject: Re: Heidegger and thingness Any thing wrong,with reading him to find out what his meaning is on one particular thing ?He may like apple pie ,like as I do,with ice-cream. mando On Apr 21, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Luc Delannoy wrote: > reading and studying the works of a philosopher (any philosopher, or artist) > is not subscribing to the contents of what you read, or study. i do subscribe > to phenomenology and applied phenomenology (in psychology and education in > particular). i find the encounter of hermeneutics with phenomenology > fascinating (gadamer, ricoeur, derrida etc - they all approached art) i like > some husserl, in particular the late husserl (genealogy) - and not this > singular entity business of his. i am not sure we have been talking about > ideology, we just approached lightly some philosophical concepts like > essence,techne, thingness and the like. of course some ideologies take > hostage various of these concepts. i admire m.h. as a philosopher - without > having to subscribe to all his work nor his political and social views. yes, > i like what he wrote about art and technology. but you know what, i also like > some frege and russell, and there are not exactly phenomenologists; so i > guess i am in the picking and choosing business after all. > luc > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: armando baeza <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: armando baeza <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:46:15 PM > Subject: Re: Heidegger and thingness > > I will have to read Heidegger to clarify "thingness" in his meaning, for > myself. > mando > > On Apr 21, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Chris Miller wrote: > >> There would seem to be three possible responses to an ideology: >> subscription, >> rejection, and selection (i.e. picking and choosing favorable elements). >> >> Regarding the one under discussion (call it German Idealism?) -- here's how >> our group seems to be sorting out: >> >> *subscription: (Saul, Luc) >> *rejection: (Cheerskep, Mando, Miller) >> *picking and choosing: William, Boris, Kate >> >> In response the query that began this thread, it's interesting that even Saul >> did not find M.H.'s discussion of thingness to be especially enlightening. >> (i.e. -- it's just Kantian discourse embedded in MH's phenomenology). >> >> I suppose there's no point in arguing matters of faith -- either you >> subscribe >> to Kantian discourse, or you don't -- but I do think that the middle ground >> is >> very problematic - since it's an essentialist program -- and if you're >> rejecting the essentials, you're rejecting the whole thing. >> >> And there have been some rather catastrophic consequences when branches of >> this discourse, Marxism and Fascism, were adopted by totalitarian regimes in >> the previous century. >> >> (regarding the dire consequences of German idealism in the artworld, I >> suppose >> that's just a matter of taste) >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Largest network of startups. Find new startup opportunities. Click here. >> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxPtu6gmO3e1k6Ar2WCK0ZiOF >> GMEO3BY8zHeCmgBqs662rSNcn3zby/
