Frances wants to explore a theory of architecture but the parameters she sets 
are too rigid, and open to dispute.  For example, the mind-body split is 
obsolete in the most current philosophical and scientific investigations.  
Also, to say something is like a bridge between the objective and the 
subjective is to say nothing beyond a tautology, since we can't fully examine 
either state by itself.  Every thought and experience is both objective and 
subjective.  All being, consciousness, is the bridge.  Finally, we can't say we 
want to define the necessary and sufficient properties of architecture by using 
terms that are themselves beyond definition, like art, or by assuming  those 
properties to be global, and therefore static, while admitting that they are 
not static, but variable in both subjective and objective ways.

It makes far better sense to try to define the properties of a specific type, 
function, or style, device, or materials, of architecture.  For example, why is 
the use of the pendentive considered an innovative trait of byzantine 
architecture when it was used by the ancient Romans, too?  Or, is there an 
American style of architecture?   

WC






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From: Frances Kelly <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2009 12:43:42 PM
Subject: RE: Architecture and Philosophy

Frances to Armando... 
You claim that the preexistent aesthetic qualities of stuff, be
it purity or beauty or unity or whatever, is actually a
subjective determination made by way of a cognitive mental
judgement. It is assumed however that such a capable mind is
normal and healthy and mature, because even mad lunatics can make
judgements about aesthetic qualities that are clearly evil or bad
or at least wrong. The individual or even the communal mind
therefore is not a reliable identifier or indicator or determiner
of what might be the aesthetic quality born by an object. It is
agreed that a perfect beautiful objective world without any
sentient beings to subjectively sense it would be pointless, but
to insist on psychologistic subjectivism as the sole means of
determining or realizing aesthetic qualities seems limited. My
approach would be to blend the objective and the subjective poles
together with a relative bridge, thereby narrowing if not closing
the drifting shifting gap. There must clearly be a relation
between the object and the subject, but is after all the object
that is held to bear aesthetic qualities, and not the subjective
mind, therefore some kind of "objective relativism" would seem to
be the best theory here for now. Furthermore, the mental mind is
of the cerebral brain in the physical body of the corporeal
being, and is hence nothing more than mere matter, but even
matter therefore is effete or weak mind in that it grows and
reacts and adapts by way of quasi thought, from the particles of
atoms to the galaxies of universes. In other words, the
subjective is objective, and the enabled determination of any
aesthetic qualities would apply to both equally. Furthermore, the
bearing of any aesthetic qualities found as formal properties in
all ordinary objects of sense would not be sufficient for the
object to become artistic or for it to even be judged as being
artistic; therefore something else other than external aesthetic
qualities alone or internal human judgements alone is needed for
stuff to be found or held or deemed as art. 

You partly wrote... 
The unavoidable aesthetic quality in anything will always remain
a subjective quality no matter the judgement of so-called
experts. 

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