Could you elaborate upon the tension you see between Bernstein and Adorno,
Mr Miller? I am not sure I see it, myself.  I do not think either I or
Bernstein would deny that a work by De Hooch is fundamentally different from
a work by Vermeer.  The problem you point to seems to be one of
interpretation and criticism (and here, I think Bernstein has a tendency to
dissolve the singularity of an artwork into the universality of concept, in
such a way, that he seems to take the former to be identical with the
latter;  a fine form of Hegelian thinking, to be sure, but not without its
problems), rather than a point about ways of seeing and experience.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Chris Miller <[email protected]>wrote:

> A fascinating response from Imago Asthetik.
>
> On the one hand, from reading Adorno, he has learned to emphasize " the
> non-
> or anti-discursive
> character of visual art and music, in connection with its 'bodily'
> presence".
>
> An excellent prescription - and a fine example of "changing my mind about
> the
> way I look at art".  Although, one wouldn't necessarily need to read
>  Adorno,
> or even be literate,  to adopt this approach.
>
> But, on the other hand, he wants to follow J. M. Bernstein's discourse when
> looking at 17th C. Dutch paintings:
>
> "De Hooch can paint the world because the world depicted is the constant
> crossing of nature as matter and order, and culture as matter and order. De
> Hooch's painterly materialism continually works to dissolve any permanent
> boundary between nature and culture, between subjective lilves ant the
> material conditions of those lives, without
> ever denying the difference between them."
>
> So, it seems that he has already forgotten Adorno's wise lesson.
>
> "Matter", "nature", "order", and  "culture" are  all part of Bernstein's
> discourse. (and perhaps we should all read "Against Voluptuous Bodies" to
> examine them)
>
> The various paintings by De Hooch, Vermeer, etc are something completely
> different.
>
> *****************************************************************
>
> >I must finish a few things, so I cannot spend too much time on this
> message.
>  But let me offer a fast outline of 'changing my mind.'
> In calling attention to both the manner in which De hooch uses his paint
> (e.g. painting a brick wall), and the choice of subject, Bernstein's
> argument transformed the way I actually look at Dutch painting in General
> (Greenaways recent film, Nightwatching had a similar effect for me viz
> Rembrant's Night Watch).     I would not say that it licensed me to
> disregard some set of prejudices I entertained prior to seeing Dutch
> painting, but it did call my attention to a set of concerns which were not
> apparent to me, and which, once entertained, produce a completely different
> way of seeing, and a different aesthetic experience.
>
> Adornos work on aesthetics has had a rather profound effect on the way I
> relate to art, and it would be difficult for me to summarize all of the
> transformations, tensions, and contradictions, his work has generated for
> me.  Suffice it to say, his emphasis of the non- or anti-discursive
> character of visual art and music, in connection with its 'bodily' presence
> (the orchestration and interpretation involved in performance, the
> thing-like character of an artwork that, in its stubborn refusal to express
> some concept, some purpose or use-value, escapes the category of 'thing,'
> the letter and syntax of the text, the weight of paint upon a canvas),
> involves a particular kind of comportment towards art, which I have not
> seen
> very many theorists or artists address, and which now seem to me to be
> fundamental to any encounter with it.
>
>
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