A photograph that is painted over, will always maintain the essence of a photograph. Photo shadows can not hide behind a paint stroke. Photos read photos, always.
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On Sep 10, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Michael Brady wrote:

On Sep 10, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Chris Miller wrote:

But there are no cases where anyone (great painter or not) has controlled a
line within a photograph so intensely that we might call it drawn.

What the hell does that mean? And of what consequence is it? But then, there is no case where a horse has climbed a tree so intensely that we might call it a cat.

Everything in a photograph is a shape, that is, light falls on the focal plane simultaneously all over (okay, okay, panoramic cameras are slightly different) so that the image is constructed of shapes; whereas in a drawing, things are often delineated with an outline that is used to surround a shape and define its edges. Most good artists know that the lines--intense and flaccid as they might be-- are in fact shapes, and attentive artists regard the boundary between two areas as a line equal to a drawn "line," if not more intensely so.

In computer vector graphics (not images), computer drawn lines are in actuality very narrow shape areas, basically boxes with extreme proportions of 500:1 or 2000:1 or something like that.


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