"if some A is B, and if all B is C, thus some A is C."
"A is seeing, B is filling-in, C is aesthetic judgment."  (WC)

How can all of "filling-in" be "aesthetic judgment" ?

Aren't there many moments when we do a lot of careful seeing and filling-in
without any concern for  aesthetic judgment at all?  (for example: while
driving a car on a busy street)

That's why I mis-construed William's syllogism when he first presented it, as
I  assumed that "C" was "filling-in".

Perhaps syllogisms cannot be constructed with words like  'seeing',
'filling-in", and 'aesthetic judgment' -- since they are so resistant to
definable, shareable interpretation..

Especially the phrase "aesthetic judgment", where, like William, I am not sure
that "the collection of parts  in which only a few can be scientifically
demonstrated and  others are merely assumed, can add up to an objectively
definable whole."

And yet still, I think it's necessary to make aesthetic judgments and share
them with each other.  I might even call such an activity  foundational to the
human project.

Regarding one such judgment, William has been bold enough to explain his
preference for Jacques Louis David over Thomas Kinkade.

Thank you!

It's a fine explanation - and I don't want to discourage him from offering any
more - but examples of such facture (underpainting scarcely wiped with paint)
can be found  in many European paintings, both good and bad, from  the 15th C.
and thereafter.  It can even be found within the torso of this  little fellow
as painted by Mr. Kinkade:

http://www.thomaskinkadegallery.com/painting.php?id=468

(which also includes that provocative Modern/post-Modern feature of placing
text, some of which is untranslatable, within the image)

While we can also find examples of what we might judge great painting where
this facture is not used at all:


http://www.abstract-art.com/abstraction/l2_Grnfthrs_fldr/g018_ryder_marine.ht
ml


I'm also sure that terrible paintings can be found where  the artist  twirled
the paint just so, building it up here and there like clumps of bloody mud in
sunlight,  to let you imagine the quagmire of emotions at war with themselves
in the people he painted."


But please don't ask me to start looking for them!  (actually -- it's quite
easy - I can just walk through the storage racks at my art club)

Which brings us back to the original topic of this thread "Live Paintings -
dead photographs", and my assertion that there is a quality of liveliness - or
vitality - or "chi energy" -- that can be created by the painter but not the
photogra;pher.

Not to say that some photographs are far, far better than others -- and that
photographs have no positive aesthetic value.

But they can't accommodate the kind of aesthetic immersion which good
paintings and drawings can.

Not because they offer less of an opportunity for "filling-in"


But  because the photographer cannot draw a line or fine tune an edge, hue, or
tone.




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