Chris, you misquote me

A photograph that is painted over,
to make it look like a painting will always
maintain the essence of a photograph.
Photo shadows can not hide behind a paint stroke.
Photos read photos, always.
Aesthetically, two distinct entities
mando


On Sep 11, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Chris Miller wrote:

But photographs can't accommodate the kind of aesthetic immersion which good
paintings and drawings can.
Not because they offer less of an opportunity for "filling-in" but because
the photographer cannot draw a line or fine tune an edge, hue, or tone. (CM)

That's like saying that a tuba cannot produce the languorous sound of an
oboe--not because a tuba offers less of an opportunity for filling in, but
because it cannot draw out a seductive note or indolent tone.(MB)


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Perhaps that's why the tuba is included less often in orchestration - but I
think a more obvious analogy would be  bass drum and  violin.


Photographs can produce effects that paintings and drawings cannot, and can
"accommodate the kind of aesthetic immersion" that good paintings and drawings
cannot. (MB)

For one thing, I doubt that's true. And for another, my experience is that the effects a photograph can produce are not only different, but also less desirable than what is possible from painting or any of the other arts that you mentioned (dance, symphonic music, sculpture), all of which allow for
greater aesthetic control than a camera.

Ansel Adams may well have insisted that "the photo was made in the developing tray and he controlled that" , but the tones in his prints still seem muddy to me, compared with how Rembrandt, Goya, or Daumier can make black and gray
feel like delicious colors.

Perhaps you don't taste those colors or perhaps you don't miss them when they
are absent.

But I do.



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