I said there might be some stimulus that affects brain cells to create mental 
patterns.  That's as far as I'll go in agreeing with the reception notion you 
describe.  All science is fairly convincing that we construct what we see and 
that the construction is modeled by cultural preferences, signs, etc., to a 
large extent, excluding the yet uncertain patterning mentioned above.

Inadvertently, I gave Miller a chance to guffaw when I wrote eliminate instead 
of pluralize.  But I had already equalized the two terms, indicating that full 
elimination is equal to full inclusion as far as specific identity is 
concerned. Subtlety is not Miller's game, though.
wc



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From: Michael Brady <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 1:28:33 PM
Subject: Meanings

William wrote

> Meaning is what we project and is affected by how we use external reality, 
> even the realities we ourselves make or manipulate like a painting or musical 
> composition.

As I've said before, I believe that artifacts contain in them structural 
properties of one kind or other that lead to consistent interpretations by 
individuals. There is something there, in them, in artifacts, that 
distinguishes them from the random detritus of nature. There is a form in them 
that is significant, that can signify to someone, who can then interpret the 
signifying.

The person, btw, doesn't "project," doesn't throw something out onto the 
object. That has a bit of metaphorical expansion to it.

Rather, the person receives it in such a way that it "makes sense" to the 
person. That's the interpretive part. A very important aspect here is that the 
thing out there and the person's receptive mechanism in here are two different 
things, and they can be separated, if the person chooses to do so. That's the 
manipulation William speaks of. It is how the meanings of words slide around, 
and how maps work.

All in all, there are two basic conditions here: terminus and correlation. The 
terminus is the place where one thing ends. It can be clear, definite, precise, 
or it can be fuzzy, vague, and unstable. But it is important to us that 
something terminates, ends, stops--that a thing can be *determined*--so that we 
can distinguish it from other things. And there is correlation, the method of 
mapping and of representation ... and of art. "This <--> that." [Cheerskep: 
note the absence of a verb.]

When William says that meaning can be manipuated, he implies that his knowing 
of somethign can be determined (limited) and that it can be arbitrarily *and 
willfully* correlated to something (A <--> C  or  A <--> E, etc.).


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