Yes, profundity is great until it digs a hole in our minds. Enjoy it
responsibly.
mando
On Oct 27, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Chris Miller wrote:
Saul's scale of "linked texts which tend to run from the
conventional to the
profound" -- got me to notice that Kivy paid no attention to it.
So presumably, the linked text that would make the Bach B-Minor
Mass profound
may also be quite conventional, as would be that "text" that Mando
sees while
listening to the Moldau - or the "all men are brothers" text that ends
Beethoven's ninth symphony.
Classical music seems to be full of conventional linked texts, so
presumably
most of it cannot be profound as far as Saul is concerned.
But even if a non-conventional linked text can be found -- so that
"we gain
insight - think in a manner, or become conscious of relationships
previously
unconsidered" --- once that new insight has been gained, it will
then become
conventional, and the piece will no longer appear profound to us.
Saul's kind of profundity is so fleeting!
Unfortunately, Kivy never discussed the profundity of texted music
or those
who write about it.
Perhaps he was thinking mostly about pre-modern, sacred music, so
he thought
that it was all too obvious:
*sacred texts are obviously about profound issues
*sacred music, when successful, really does feel that way.
But what about all those Italian operas, for example --- where the
music feels
quite profound -- but the texts are so silly/melodramatic ?
It seems that Kivy is not especially thinking about the arts in a
modern way
-- which is OK, now that we're in Post-Modern times, isn't it ?
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