On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 5:57 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree with William about the "subjectivity" of art. There is no absolute,
> mind-independent, ontic "quality" of "artness" up in Plato's heaven. Even
> those who have been sufficiently involved in a genre to be called
> "sophisticated" can disagree in their response to works in that genre. The
> variety of
> sensibility can be startling. It's astonishing how many highly literate
> people profess disgust at Shakespeare.
>
> For me, the most interesting inquiry in aesthetics continues to be focused
> on what I'll call the "aesthetic experience". I know even that phrase will
> be disputed and rejected by some. But I'm fairly firm about saying I know
> it
> when I feel it. I'm convinced there are those who all their lives read
> poetry, visit visual-art museums, listen to music, but who fail in one or
> more of
> the genres ever to have an "aesthetic experience". One can encounter a
> bemused blankness when trying to convey what an "a.e." is like. It is
> roughly
> comparable to trying to convey the feeling of an orgasm in sex to those
> who've
> never had one. I've known warm people who have willingly indulged in sexual
> play all their lives (It's friendly! It's "nice"!) but who persuasively
> report they have never reached orgasm.
>

Do you feel that an a.e. is supposed to be cathartic, i.e., provide a kind
of purge?

>
> Luckily for me I've had what I call a.e.'s in a variety of genres - and for
> me the question of exactly what is going on and why in each is an abiding
> question. I grant that the best moments in Mozart...


I'd be curious to know what you consider to be "the best moments in Mozart"?

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