On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:30 AM, William Conger
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Yes, but only in the sense of diverting discussion from aesthetic ideas.
>  Why do
> you say ideals?  That implies that the nature of the aesthetic is
> recognized and
> understood and that the role of aesthetic inquiry is simply to mark the
> best
> path to those ideals.  I don't think it's clear what ideals, if any, are
> aesthetic or if the aesthetic is a process instead of a route to an
> idealized
> goal.
> wc
>



In order to serve as a model and as a basis for judgment, ideals need to be
created.

To paraphrase George Gissing:

- Principles [and ideas] always become a matter of vehement discussion when
practice [and ideals are] at ebb. Not by taking thought does one become an
artist, or grow even an inch in that direction--which is not at all the
same as saying that he who is an artist cannot profit by conscious effort.

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