My friend, the realist painter James Valerio, insists that by painting he can 
show more of the subject than can be seen otherwise.  He paints from life and 
from large format photos he takes himself.  There are usually several different 
images of the same subject -- or details of an ensemble -- in a large viewing 
box nearby his work area together with the actual subject -- usually a built 
environment -- and they are all different.  He has all these 'looking' sources 
and must carry them in his mind to the painting and apply paint.  When he 
paints 
how much is a remembered amalgam and how much is a new invention guided by the 
painted surface?  He says it's largely invented from memory at the moment of 
painting and the painting is the guide.  That's why he claims to put more in 
than there is 'out there' to see.  (see Forum Gallery for samples of his work).


----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Brady <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, August 30, 2012 5:34:58 PM
Subject: Re: is list dead?

On Aug 30, 2012, at 4:19 PM, joseph berg <[email protected]> wrote:

> - Perhaps the sketch of a work is so pleasing because everyone can finish
> it as he chooses.

No representation is "finished" because no representation is equal to the
thing it represents. Representations are maps of smaller things onto larger
things, and the fullness of the natural object cannot be matched by the
representation, so that in the most "finished" looking painting, such as those
incredible Flemish paintings of food and fowl or the hyperrealistic paintings
of the 80s, there is so much that they are incapable of representing, just as
the briefest Rodin drawing of Balinese dancers, that the viewer will not
exhaust the possibilities.

Note to Cheerskep: I am, of course, thinking of the way the viewer recognizes
his own perceptions of the painted subject and correlates it, in his mind,
with memories of the original--or even with the actual model if it's still
present.



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