One could argue the criteria Raphael's The School of Athens claims for itself 
is 
kitschy illustration. What happens the the 'criteria the work claims' is vastly 
inferior or superior to the criteria claimed by the critic...or the artist?
WC


----- Original Message ----
From: saulostrow <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, August 20, 2012 11:57:48 AM
Subject: Re: "...There can be no art criticism because there is no  criteria 
from which to make criticism."

yes there are no objective criteria -what the critic does is attempt to c
both contextually make sense of a work of art, then  to evaluate it on the
basis of the criteria the work claims, or establishes for itself - and then
argues from the position of their own criteria if such a work has value
based on the critic's clearly articulated position and rational - after
that all is open to debate - as it is in all other fields of operations in
which criticism plays a role

As for meaning it is what you make of it given your competence and literacy

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:31 AM, William Conger <[email protected]>wrote:

> Another dumb article, redundant and boring in itself.  It ends with the
> vacuous
> statement that artworks convey meaning.
>
> An object, including a word or an artwork, cannot  'convey' meaning.
>  Meaning is
> an invention of the mind.  Things in the world are meaningless.
> wc
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: joseph berg <[email protected]>
> To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, August 20, 2012 4:12:29 AM
> Subject: "...There can be no art criticism because there is no criteria
>  from
> which to make criticism."
>
> http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=14006&page=0
>
>


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