Wouldn't this only be possible if RAphael had heard of kitschy illustration? Although I suppose there were enough sentimental religious woodcuts around so you could argue he at least had the concept. Kate Sullivan
-----Original Message----- From: William Conger <[email protected]> To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:44 pm Subject: Re: "...There can be no art criticism because there is no criteria from which to make criticism." One could argue the criteria Raphael's The School of Athens claims for itself is kitschy illustration. What happens the the 'criteria the work claims' is vastly inferior or superior to the criteria claimed by the critic...or the artist? WC ----- Original Message ---- From: saulostrow <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, August 20, 2012 11:57:48 AM Subject: Re: "...There can be no art criticism because there is no criteria from which to make criticism." yes there are no objective criteria -what the critic does is attempt to c both contextually make sense of a work of art, then to evaluate it on the basis of the criteria the work claims, or establishes for itself - and then argues from the position of their own criteria if such a work has value based on the critic's clearly articulated position and rational - after that all is open to debate - as it is in all other fields of operations in which criticism plays a role As for meaning it is what you make of it given your competence and literacy On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:31 AM, William Conger <[email protected]>wrote:
Another dumb article, redundant and boring in itself. It ends with
the
vacuous statement that artworks convey meaning. An object, including a word or an artwork, cannot 'convey' meaning. Meaning is an invention of the mind. Things in the world are meaningless. wc ----- Original Message ---- From: joseph berg <[email protected]> To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, August 20, 2012 4:12:29 AM Subject: "...There can be no art criticism because there is no
criteria
from which to make criticism." http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=14006&page=0
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