Yeah, I would say it's low. I've heard of 70k+ a year for guys that can
head a job. Starting out may be more like $20-25/hour.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is it, though? I don't think those guys get paid all that much, given that
> they're a dime a dozen.
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> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 4, 2018 11:29:48 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing
>
> 25 an hour is low for tower work
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 10:13 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Let’s say I pay a guy that I have  sent to Comtrain $25/hour.
>> I pay a few benefits, modest health insurance etc.
>> To not lose money, I have to bill one of my other companies $39.50.
>>
>> I have a very comprehensive spreadsheet that calculates every jot and
>> tittle for loaded rates.
>> It even includes the expense of calculating the billing etc.
>>
>> If anyone wants a copy  send me an off list request.  I don’t think I can
>> attach spreadsheets to the email.
>>
>> So, lets round up.  $40/hour is my out of pocket.
>> Say I need two of these guys to hang the radios.  $80/hour.
>>
>> I know I can climb that tower, hang the radio, secure the CAT5 and be on
>> the ground in 2 hours.
>> Have done similar jobs many many times as a younger man.
>>
>> Then drive for a half hour (let’s round up to 1 hours) and then do the
>> same at the other site.  5 hours total so far.
>> Then say we have to go back to the first site and tweak the aiming.  6
>> hours into the job.
>>
>> 6 x 80 is $480  My out of pocket payroll expense to hang a pair of $600
>> radios.
>> Perhaps there is some OSHA rule that requires 4 guys.  I don’t know about
>> this rule.... but two people have mentioned it now.
>> OK, my expense is not $1200.
>>
>> Let’s say I want send my guys to do this job for someone else and make a
>> 50% margin, then I would be billing $2400.
>> And pocketing half.
>>
>> Still far less than the quotes and estimates I have received.
>> I realize everyone has to drive in from somewhere and they have to be
>> paid while they drive.   But still...
>> Where is that rule that you must have 4 guys on a tower crew?
>> What is a fair margin when renting our your employees to others.
>> What is the cost of sending someone to Comtrain these days?
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 3, 2018 11:15 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing
>>
>> I figure less than 3 hours per tower, in reality it should be one hour
>> per tower.  So 6 man hours.  Of course there would be transport time to and
>> from.  But if my own employees were doing it I would have less than $240 in
>> payroll expense.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 03, 2018 9:34 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing
>>
>> Too busy to help you...but 4500.00 is more or less what son and I would
>> charge...
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 1:28 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> *From:* Trey Scarborough
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 3, 2018 1:15 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing
>>>
>>>
>>> Check with LRC
>>>
>>> https://www.lrcwireless.com/
>>>
>>> On 7/2/2018 8:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> Near Innis Louisiana.
>>> (NW of Baton Rouge, SE or Alexandria).
>>>
>>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 02, 2018 7:27 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing
>>>
>>> $5000 and they don't even need to mount big dishes or take out the
>>> rubber tape? Incredible.... sounds like it's their "we don't want your
>>> business, go away" pricing. Maybe post the area and see if any AFMUG
>>> members are around?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 8:23 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Integrated radios/antenna.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 02, 2018 7:16 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing
>>>>
>>>> How big are the dishes?
>>>>
>>>> Those seem really high compared to around here.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a pair of PTP550s to hang and wire.
>>>>> Long away from my base of operations.  About 100’ up on both ends.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have received two quotes to hang and aim:
>>>>> $5000
>>>>>
>>>>> $8000   ($14,000 if it goes to 2 days)
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure why they think this needs 4 guys to do.
>>>>> I am too old to do it myself, just don’t have the leg
>>>>> strength/endurance to be safe.
>>>>>
>>>>> 10x the cost of the radios to hang and aim???
>>>>>
>>>>>
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