Right, but Adam mentioned speeds excluding compression. 



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From: "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 2:25:10 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11 


AFAIK The Trango Lynx secret sauce was header compression, and those numbers 
vary based on your average packet size. Lets of small packets = less overall 
throughput / larger packets = larger overall throughput capability. 


On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke < eric.kuh...@gmail.com > wrote: 




ubnt does not publish the specific FEC coding types and percentages for the 
AF11's modulations. What it's doing under the hood is kind of opaque... 












On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 

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This brings up what I've been wondering when looking at the AF11 data sheets: 

A Trango Lynx on a 56mhz channel SISO without compression yields 486mbps Full 
Duplex at 1024QAM. 
An AF11X SISO on the same channel size at 1024QAM yields 344mbps Full Duplex. 

What's the deal? Lower cyclic prefix on AF11? 

-Adam 





On 7/17/2018 2:28 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: 

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With limited spectrum, it's an accurate statement. On a single polarity, 56mhz 
channel an AF-11 will get slightly less throughput than something like an old 
SAF Lumina (and the AF11 is using 1024QAM vs 256QAM, to get not even as much 
capacity, which means it needs a higher link budget). However, if spectrum 
isn't a problem, you need to spend a lot more money to get similar throughput 
to either of these radios with anything else. 



On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:00 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > 
wrote: 

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>>> Neither radio has much better performance than a 10 year old traditional 
>>> 256 QAM radio. 



One should take that with a grain of salt !.... 

In absolute terms, yes that could be an accurate statement. 

How is pans out in reality is questionable ! 



:) 



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From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 1:36:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11 




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I don't have an incentive to use either as there is so little 11 GHz spectrum 
in my area. 



Neither radio has much better performance than a 10 year old traditional 256 
QAM radio. 




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From: "Jason McKemie" < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 12:32:20 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11 

More dependable, predictable, etc. 

I take it you like the B11? I like the radio interface and SFP on that radio, I 
like just about everything else on the AF11. 

I've just read about several instances where people have replaced the B11 with 
the AF11fx - I haven't read a single one the opposite way around. I'd like to 
hear if you've had a different experience. 

On Tuesday, July 17, 2018, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 

<blockquote>


Define "better". 




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From: "Jason McKemie" < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < Af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 8:02:34 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11 


Does anyone have experience with both of these that can provide some guidance 
as to which has worked better? 
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