Being as Ubiquiti has decided to go down the frivolous lawsuit path
as their business model i've decided to never use any Ubiquiti
products or services in my business model.
The only way for me to change my business model to include Ubiquiti
would be for them to change their business model.
Suing your customers and inflicting our industry with harm puts you
outside of my vendor list.
Also saying "but if you want to talk about products or anything other
than the lawsuit, feel free to reach out to me privately." is kind of
like Ford in the 1970's saying "if you want to talk about anything
else besides exploding Pintos, feel free to reach out to me
privately." The lawsuit is both a symptom and a cause to problems at
Ubiquiti and you can't just brush the elephant in the room under the
rug.
2 cents
-Sean
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 9:28 AM Cameron Crum <cc...@murcevilo.com
<mailto:cc...@murcevilo.com>> wrote:
In the interest of full disclosure, for those that don't know, and
given the current environment, when I joined the group I had my own
company (still do, just not doing much with it currently), but now
also work for ubnt although I am not here to shill for them nor will
I involve myself in discussions about them unless I see something
grossly in error. I would actually rather keep that side of things
separate from this group as I value the relationships here above any
employment scenario. My job at ubnt is actually to engage with
operators and try to find a better way to create and maintain
relationships with them. I hope to take all the past failures and
criticisms and present them with a plan on how to be better at that
side of things. I actually prefer to hear the bad stuff as that is
what I can use to help change things, hopefully. I don't want this
to turn into a discussion about the company, but if you want to talk
about products or anything other than the lawsuit, feel free to
reach out to me privately. I just don't want to seem like the enemy
lurker.
Best,
Cameron
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Likewise. I hope that he is lurking in incognito mode at least.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 9/15/2018 8:44 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
Yes, he is missed.
On Saturday, September 15, 2018, <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Harass, welcome.
I hope for the day to see Ken Hohof show up.
*From:* Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 5:58 PM
*To:* AFMUG
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription notification
Well, it would only be new lurkers that would get outed, I
assume... but yeah, if all we're seeing is an email
address, that can be pretty anonymous anyway.
I'm not sure what good it would really do us though...
other than give us an opportunity to harass new people.
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:11 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Probably best to not out the lurkers. There are about
500 list members but only about 10% post.
*From:* Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 3:03 PM
*To:* AFMUG
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription notification
I assume most of the subscribers to this list never
actually post anything. It might be kind of
interesting to see who's watching us...
I imagine there are some people that wouldn't like it,
but if they aren't going to every post anything
anyway, do we care?
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:52 PM David Coudron
<david.coud...@advantenon.com> wrote:
I think enough information is shared feely in this
group to warrant folks being identified as
recipients of the information. If I were signing
up, I don’t think it would be unreasonable to be
identified as being a part of the list given the
value of the discussions on the list.
Regards,
David Coudron
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of
*Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 3:34 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription notification
A manufacturer rep might prefer to quietly lurk
and observe....or a government rep.
Nobody is entitled to//privacy in a public forum,
but I'm sure some would prefer it.
-Adam
On 9/14/2018 1:53 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
xx...@xxxx.xxx has been successfully
subscribed to AF.
I am thinking of posting this when new people
join.
Or do new list subscribers deserve to remain
incognito until they out themselves?
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