From:
"Mike Meluskey" <
[email protected]>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <
[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 6:34:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription
notification
I was one of Ubiquiti’s first customers, their SR
wireless cards that
plugged into MT RB532.
The lawsuit combined with the AF24’s 95% failure
rate in the
Hurricanes (compared to the 0% failure of Ceragon
IP-20 and 5% Cambium
450m) have put Ubiquiti on our former vendor list.
On 17 Sep 2018, at 18:14, Robert Andrews wrote:
> +100
>
> On 09/17/2018 02:36 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>> Being as Ubiquiti has decided to go down
the frivolous lawsuit path
>> as their business model i've decided to
never use any Ubiquiti
>> products or services in my business model.
>>
>> The only way for me to change my business
model to include Ubiquiti
>> would be for them to change their business
model.
>>
>> Suing your customers and inflicting our
industry with harm puts you
>> outside of my vendor list.
>>
>> Also saying "but if you want to talk about
products or anything other
>> than the lawsuit, feel free to reach out to
me privately." is kind of
>> like Ford in the 1970's saying "if you want
to talk about anything
>> else besides exploding Pintos, feel free to
reach out to me
>> privately." The lawsuit is both a symptom
and a cause to problems at
>> Ubiquiti and you can't just brush the
elephant in the room under the
>> rug.
>>
>> 2 cents
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 9:28 AM Cameron
Crum <
[email protected]
>> <
mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
>>
>> In the interest of full disclosure, for
those that don't know,
>> and
>> given the current environment, when I
joined the group I had my
>> own
>> company (still do, just not doing much
with it currently), but
>> now
>> also work for ubnt although I am not
here to shill for them nor
>> will
>> I involve myself in discussions about
them unless I see something
>> grossly in error. I would actually
rather keep that side of
>> things
>> separate from this group as I value the
relationships here above
>> any
>> employment scenario. My job at ubnt is
actually to engage with
>> operators and try to find a better way
to create and maintain
>> relationships with them. I hope to take
all the past failures and
>> criticisms and present them with a plan
on how to be better at
>> that
>> side of things. I actually prefer to
hear the bad stuff as that
>> is
>> what I can use to help change things,
hopefully. I don't want
>> this
>> to turn into a discussion about the
company, but if you want to
>> talk
>> about products or anything other than
the lawsuit, feel free to
>> reach out to me privately. I just don't
want to seem like the
>> enemy
>> lurker.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Bill
Prince
>> <
[email protected]
>> <
mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
>>
>> Likewise. I hope that he is lurking
in incognito mode at
>> least.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 9/15/2018 8:44 AM, Jason McKemie
wrote:
>>> Yes, he is missed.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 15,
2018, <
[email protected]
>>> <
mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Harass, welcome.
>>> I hope for the day to see
Ken Hohof show up.
>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Friday, September
14, 2018 5:58 PM
>>> *To:* AFMUG
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF
subscription notification
>>> Well, it would only be new
lurkers that would get outed,
>>> I
>>> assume... but yeah, if all
we're seeing is an email
>>> address, that can be pretty
anonymous anyway.
>>> I'm not sure what good it
would really do us though...
>>> other than give us an
opportunity to harass new people.
>>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at
4:11 PM <
[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Probably best to not
out the lurkers. There are
>>> about
>>> 500 list members but
only about 10% post.
>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Friday,
September 14, 2018 3:03 PM
>>> *To:* AFMUG
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
AF subscription notification
>>> I assume most of the
subscribers to this list never
>>> actually post anything.
It might be kind of
>>> interesting to see
who's watching us...
>>> I imagine there are
some people that wouldn't like
>>> it,
>>> but if they aren't
going to every post anything
>>> anyway, do we care?
>>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at
3:52 PM David Coudron
>>> <
[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>
>>> I think enough
information is shared feely in
>>> this
>>> group to warrant
folks being identified as
>>> recipients of the
information. If I were signing
>>> up, I don’t think
it would be unreasonable to
>>> be
>>> identified as being
a part of the list given the
>>> value of the
discussions on the list.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> David Coudron
>>>
>>> *From:*AF <
[email protected]>
*On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> *Adam Moffett
>>> *Sent:* Friday,
September 14, 2018 3:34 PM
>>> *To:*
[email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re:
[AFMUG] AF subscription
>>> notification
>>>
>>> A manufacturer rep
might prefer to quietly lurk
>>> and observe....or a
government rep.
>>>
>>> Nobody is entitled
to//privacy in a public
>>> forum,
>>> but I'm sure some
would prefer it.
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>>
>>> On 9/14/2018 1:53
PM,
[email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>
[email protected] has been
successfully
>>> subscribed to
AF.
>>>
>>> I am thinking
of posting this when new
>>> people
>>> join.
>>>
>>> Or do new list
subscribers deserve to remain
>>> incognito until
they out themselves?
>>>
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