I think professional installer truck rolls will be a big stumbling block.
20+ years ago I was involved in ADSL when it was the next new shiny thing. (Managed product design group at Westell that developed equipment used by Ameritech and Bell Atlantic for market trials.) One of the big obstacles was the idea that every new ADSL customer required a truck roll to install a “splitter”. The telcos only deployed once they came up with little inline filters that customers could self-install on each phone. This allowed them to just mail out a self-install kit consisting of a DSL modem and a handful of filters. I think this is one big reason that AT&T and Verizon are pushing wireless over wired. Yes, you still need labor to equip towers, but unlike union craftspeople who hook up landline stuff, they are typically non union and probably not even direct employees. So Verizon says initially they are sending skilled installers for their fixed wireless, but can they really transition to customer self-install? And what happens to system performance if you have a bunch of low modulation poorly installed or indoor antennas? If they can’t transition to self-install, it’s like Mark says, all the talk about rural was just talk. And what about urban mmWave 5G? Are they really going to compete with cable by telling people it’s easy, just install it yourself, use this big suction cup to stick the antenna to a window facing our tower. I see little 4G broadband modems sitting on a desk being popular. I don’t see stuff suction cupped to a window being nearly so popular, unless it is significantly faster and cheaper than cable (or fiber). I’m curious how mmWave will work for mobile. Remember Apple telling people “you’re holding it wrong”? It seems like hands could cause all sorts of problems for mmWave. So do you need to set the phone down to get the claimed speeds? And if all those self-installed and mobile devices have poor modulation and lots of dropped packets, what does that do to overall system capacity? This is a problem that even seems to afflict a lot of WISPs. The ones that put a little Nanostation at customers 5 miles from the tower paralleling the aluminum siding shooting through a tree, because if it links up, it’s good to go. Then they wonder why their APs are not getting anywhere near advertised capacity. For lab speeds to translate into production, it may require professional installers, but those cost money, compared to customer self-install which is free. Oh, and I also wonder what happens if they try to use CBRS as part of 5 carrier aggregation at fixed wireless customers. That probably invokes the FCC requirement for a certified professional installer, not customer self-install. Are they going to want to do that just to have one more band available for more capacity/speed? And BTW also pay the SAS vendor for that location. From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:42 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic... It’s not that I don’t think 5G is a threat, but I think it’s a far bigger threat to cable than to rural fixed wireless. To compete where the dense population is is going to occupy the capex budgets of the carriers for years. I don’t see the industry changing its tactics much - promise the moon to get what they want from the regulators and then go back to ignoring rural. The formula has worked for years and looks like it’s going to work again. Mark On Sep 22, 2018, at 8:20 AM, Gino A. Villarini <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I don’t want to sound pessimistic.. But that kind of mockery was the one floating around Blockbuster’s HQ ehere they talked about Netflix… From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of Steve Jones <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 <aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Date: Friday, September 21, 2018 at 11:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic... I can do xgbps with x numerous radios on all available channels with an aggregator on both ends. I'm calling it Xg and using stormy Danielson a pole as the stock images for marketing On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 7:52 PM Gino A. Villarini <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: They can do 1 Gbps per sector using 5 Channel carrier aggregation. Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 <aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png> On Sep 21, 2018, at 4:24 PM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: And WISP-like speeds if they are running in 2.5 Mark On Sep 21, 2018, at 3:58 PM, Gino A. Villarini <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: TMO-Sprint plan is to use 2.5 ghz band 41 MUMIMO for Fixed Gigabit Wireless Access… Expect WISP like ranges… From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of Bill Prince <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 <aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Date: Friday, September 21, 2018 at 3:43 PM To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> " <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic... Mainly because 5G cells are expected to be very small. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 9/21/2018 12:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Why? From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of Bill Prince <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Date: Friday, September 21, 2018 at 3:28 PM To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> " <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Talk about optimistic... But it will still be a primarily urban service. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 9/21/2018 12:24 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: https://venturebeat.com/2018/09/21/t-mobile-details-5g-home-broadband-plan-to-undercut-charter-and-comcast/ -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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