Baicells just announced 5Ghz LTE, might be others.

The brains of the Cambium 3G Medusa is apparently supposed to be capable of LTE 
modulation is what I thought I heard at the roadshow. It would be a future 
software option. 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:12 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I really have not been paying any attention to this, but is there an 
> unlicensed LTE radio?
> Meaning an unlicensed radio that uses LTE modulation methods. 
>  
> From: Adam Moffett
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:09 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>  
> What's nice LTE?  Baicells?
> A Telrad eNB might be "only" $7k, but you'll be north of $9k by the time you 
> figure out all the licenses you need.
> 
> I'd be curious about a 3.65 Medusa, but I wonder if I can set TDD parameters 
> that will line up with our existing LTE frames.
> -Adam
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/24/2018 3:45 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
>> It's gonna be on display in Vegas. I'm not even in USA so the CBRS stuff 
>> isn't really affecting us right now, but when you start looking at 9k per ap 
>> you could get some nice LTE instead. 
>>  
>> It's just surprising being 2k more than the 5ghz pmp450m. Especially with 
>> the cost of the SM being higher as well, but maybe the 450b 3.65 will solve 
>> that? Time will tell I guess.
>>  
>>  
>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> That’s not surprising, if it includes the MU-MIMO activation key.  I guess 
>>> nutty is in the eye of the beholder.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> But if it’s really available “soon”, I’m a little surprised, I was afraid 
>>> they would wait to see what the FCC did with the PAL auction rules.  Also 
>>> whether the industry decided that CBRS is only for LTE devices, even for 
>>> fixed.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> And I thought Ubiquiti had trademarked the term SOON™.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I think something like LTE or cnMedusa is going to be necessary for 
>>> CBRS, especially with the cost of paying a SAS vendor for each location and 
>>> the cost of acquiring PAL licenses, and then only getting 10 MHz channels.  
>>> You don’t get much capacity from 10 MHz of spectrum unless you have all the 
>>> fancy tricks like beam steering and bidirectional MU-MIMO, and of course at 
>>> least 256QAM.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 1:31 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>>>  
>>> 
>>> It's available very soon, but the pricing is nutty. $9k usd....
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wait, 3.65 Medusa is available now?  I thought it was some undetermined 
>>> date in the future.  Or did I misunderstand you?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave
>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:09 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> We have a few towers with TOWER TOP control and management.
>>> The ones I designed are 24v and 48v. 
>>> We have only CMM4 boxes with the Planet switches which I use LC the hybrid 
>>> cable comes from Besttronics.
>>> We have a #12 stranded pair in each of these. I have to have transtector 
>>> Part#1101-626 at top and bottom to meet our
>>> surge protection compliance. 
>>> Since those sites have been installed I have had zero issues.
>>> 
>>> Seems that 3.65Medusa has made us change to a more direct connection so my 
>>> box design will have to be modified.
>>> All of the Orange tag cables will have to be removed since the packet flux 
>>> will not support the new power requirements
>>> 
>>> Here is one design we have plans to deploy next week.
>>> <image003.jpg>
>>> 
>>> On 09/22/2018 05:05 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are most people using SC or LC at the top of the tower? I want to use LC 
>>> most everywhere I can, but I understand the advantage in SC on a tower 
>>> where it's easier to work with larger things.
>>> 
>>> What's the next bigger enclosure? Could you put something like this on a 
>>> swinging panel where I could run a trunk cable into it and then plug 
>>> individual patch cables going to each radio? Maybe easier on you if you 
>>> just make it work with something else on the market, like these panels from 
>>> FiberStore where someone can just get whatever panel they want 
>>> (LC\SC\whatever)?
>>> 
>>> https://www.fs.com/products/68962.html
>>> 
>>> The goal is to emulate one of these:
>>> https://www.raycap.com/wp-content/uploads/DC6-48-60-0-8C-EV_320-1318.pdf
>>> https://www.raycap.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/DC6-48-60-18-8C-EV_320-1315-1.pdf
>>> 
>>> Power and fiber in one box, transition from trunk to the ground to the 
>>> radios.
>>> 
>>> I'm sure they'd sell well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Chuck McCown" mailto:[email protected]
>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:[email protected]
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 4:51:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>>> 
>>> Can put in a patch panel.  Just a mechanical thing to solve.
>>> 
>>> But patch panels have cutouts for couplers.  And different couplers need 
>>> different size holes in the part that holds them in.
>>> 
>>> So if someone could tell me which coupler will always be needed, then this 
>>> is easy. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Otherwise I have to offer a variety of coupler options and that multiplies 
>>> my part numbers etc etc.
>>> 
>>> Happy to do that but not if I only sell 1 per month. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Mike Hammett
>>> 
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:46 AM
>>> 
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> 
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> When do we see a 48v one of these? Also, more density?
>>> 
>>> http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-relay-output/
>>> 
>>> When do we see one of these with a fiber patch panel and slack storage?
>>> 
>>> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/8-circuit-outdoor-dc-power-line-surge-suppressor-protector-copy/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> 
>>> 
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