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On Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 10:14 PM Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:

> Lewis
> What instructions do you have that says 80% of breaking strength?
> Everything I have ever seen says 10% and the 3/16 wire is 4000#.  I still
> overtighten to about 20% to make it feel secure and it usually stretches
> and after a few temp changes it ends up being around 15% of the tensile
> strenghth?  I have never tightened to 80%.  That being said I still would
> have the concerns about the pipe bending.  I am going to back anchor the
> pipe and I am going to put some Sonnet tube over it and put concrete up the
> pole as well for at least 1/2 of the height of the pipe.  I have used
> beam's before as well but I think this pipe I got is actually more rigid
> than the I beam I used in the past.
>
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> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:18:47 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Anchor holes
>
>
> You are supposed to tension guys at 80% of breaking tensil strength. On
> 120 foot 45g that is likely a 1/4 inch guy on top. Maybe 3/16 on the other
> 3.
> That and probably 5600 pounds on the top guy and 4400 or so on the others.
> That means there will be almost 19,000 pounds of pull on that guy point. If
> you only want the tower for a few years, don't change anything. If you want
> it longer, I would ditch the pipe, but some 12 inch I beam. Cut the top at
> a 60 degree angle punch 4 holes. Leave the top flange long, bend it over at
> 45 degrees and punch 2 holes on it.
> But if course it is your show. If you give Rohn the info and what you want
> to do they will give you an engineered solution in a week for free.
>
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 6:55 PM Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Planning on putting a sonnet tube over the outside with rebar and
>> reinforcing at some on the outside as well
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Sep 29, 2018, at 18:49, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 9/29/18 4:29 PM, Craig House wrote:
>> > > It’s 120 foot tall 45G Tower. I’ve already purchased and had the pipe
>> > > welded for planning on putting it in the holes on Monday if I can get
>> > > the holes dug
>> >
>> >
>> > I guess if you're committed to pipe at least fill it with concrete.
>> >
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