Are you in farming country?  The I-beam method is often used for grain legs and 
other structures at farms.  Find a local company that erects grain bins and 
they can probably put in I-beam guy anchors for you, or it they contract it 
out, can give you the name of someone who will.

I know they pound I-beams into the ground as footings for buildings, I wonder 
if they ever do that for guy anchors, or always in concrete?  The method they 
use probably wouldn't work at an angle, basically just a rig that repeatedly 
drops a big weight onto it.

-----Original Message-----
From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 11:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anchor holes

Back in the olden days, I dug telephone pole holes up to 7 feet deep with very 
long handled shovels, spoons and a long digging bar.

Then we would manually install the pole in the hole with pike poles.

Don't miss that!

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anchor holes

Yeah, what Mitch said.  They make yellow guards for guy wires; specifically so 
people can see them and not get clotheslined.

It would also seem if somebody could hit the wire, they could hit your pipe.  
Rather than getting clotheslined they've wrecked their ATV and face planted 
into a pole.  Making it more visible would be the key.  If the guy wire would 
physically cross an ATV trail, then moving the guy anchors farther out would 
give it more clearance.

But I know I'm safely in my armchair here and can't see the situation on the 
ground.

Telephone pole contractors can auger that deep.  We had a guy doing 30"
holes 10 feet deep for so we could plant an 80' pole.  If you want to hit 6 
feet depth, they might have something at the tool rental place for setting deck 
posts.  If not, then a telephone pole contractor.  They can go through rock if 
they have carbide rock teeth on the auger.

-Adam




On 9/29/2018 7:08 PM, Mitch Koep wrote:
> Craig
>
> Maybe a chain link fence next to the guy wires
>
> to the ground connection Extend fence out to the the point the guy 
> wires is about
>
> 10 foot above ground???
>
> We do that and use light weight orange fiber duct on the guy wires to 
> the ground lug
>
> Mitch
>
>
> On 9/29/2018 3:15 PM, Craig House wrote:
>> Yes.  Elevated guy supports.  The location is an atv off road ranch 
>> and they are worried about people getting clothes lined.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 29, 2018, at 15:05, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 10 foot tall wooden poles for an aerial attachment only need to be 
>>> set maybe
>>> 4 feet deep.
>>>
>>> Or are you talking about elevated supports for guy wires?
>>> If so, you probably need to dig a trench for an L shaped sleeper and 
>>> the some rebar in sonotube for the poles and anchors.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Craig House
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:55 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Anchor holes
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a tower construction location which is going to require 10 
>>> foot poles above ground as an attachment point for the wires at each 
>>> of the holes.
>>> I
>>> have the pipes constructed but I’m concerned about being able to 
>>> drill the holes in our soil and ground to accommodate the pipes. Has 
>>> anyone done something like this before I’m not looking to do typical 
>>> anchor holes that are 6 feet or 8 feet wide and a foot and a half 
>>> across I’m looking for an auger hole that is a straight 6 to 7 feet 
>>> down
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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