I think with Procera you pay for the box and maintenance, while with Saisei you pay monthly per active user (and buy a Dell server). You’d have to do some math to figure out which is cheaper. I think the commitment might also be 1 year vs. 3 years, but maybe that’s negotiable.
From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 10:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions I too have a Procera box currently (the small one that only does 1gig aggregate) and am at the point of needing to upgrade that and Powercode is my billing server and they are saying that the Saisei box is a lot cheaper than Procera since its just Ubuntu running on your own hardware. They said most of their customers that have been running Proceras are pretty much all switching to Saisei. I am trying to figure out what to do myself. My Procera annual license renewal comes up in December. On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 11:06 PM Adair Winter <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: We outgrew the box is why we switched. We tried to go with procera virtual which was procera on your own (to their spec) box but it was riddled with problems. A appliance the next size up with $70k and we were not ready to drop that kind of money on it. although I kinda wish we would have. Saisei has had weird UDP traffic flow issues. We've had Voip and VPN issues where we've had to bypass customers around the box until we rebooted. Thought it was fixed but it's returned again. Gonna give pressem a try and see what happens. If it doesn't work not sure what we will do. Only real option is mikrotik queues. I guess. On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 8:53 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: The biggest thing we are looking for is being able to keep customer experience high even while they're using their plan. Our problem now is someone will be using 50Mb/s sustained on the down, and their pings go high and experience is worse than it should be. Trying to get buffer bloat down, being able to prioritize different traffic behind others is nice as well. We will see what happens. On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:47 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Also testing out Preseem. Signed up at wispa, just got the boxes in the network and can't wait to see what it can do. On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:29 PM Adair Winter <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Honestly, we loved procera. We are currently with Saisei but not overly happy. About to do a preseem demo. I can send more detail if you'd like later. On mobile now. Adair On Mon, Nov 12, 2018, 5:10 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: Once upon a time there was just Procera. Then there was Saisei and then Preseem. As of the recent WISPAPALOOZA it seems we also have Bequant, which bills their product as a TCP proxy, which is not really what I’m looking for. Can anyone relate success or horror stories with any of these, on or off list? I have at least one WISP recommending Preseem, and they seem like the latest hot thing. I am confused as to whether Sandvine/Procera is still selling to the WISP market, and if so, what is their sales channel. I just got off a conference call with Saisei, and everything sounded reasonably good, no red flags. I could go ahead with a trial license from one of these guys, but it would be good to know who is using what and how they like it. Anybody can have a good Powerpoint presentation, the question is, how does it work in the real world. -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- Adair Winter VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 C: 806.231.7180 <http://www.amarillowireless.net/> http://www.amarillowireless.net <http://www.amarillowireless.net> -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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