Doesn't sonar still have the ability to add Procera per-user on off-the-shelf Dell hardware if you're using their system? I was considering going that route.
On Tuesday, November 13, 2018, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > I think with Procera you pay for the box and maintenance, while with > Saisei you pay monthly per active user (and buy a Dell server). You’d have > to do some math to figure out which is cheaper. I think the commitment > might also be 1 year vs. 3 years, but maybe that’s negotiable. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2018 10:19 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions > > > > I too have a Procera box currently (the small one that only does 1gig > aggregate) and am at the point of needing to upgrade that and Powercode is > my billing server and they are saying that the Saisei box is a lot cheaper > than Procera since its just Ubuntu running on your own hardware. They said > most of their customers that have been running Proceras are pretty much all > switching to Saisei. I am trying to figure out what to do myself. My > Procera annual license renewal comes up in December. > > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 11:06 PM Adair Winter <[email protected]> > wrote: > > We outgrew the box is why we switched. We tried to go with procera virtual > which was procera on your own (to their spec) box but it was riddled with > problems. A appliance the next size up with $70k and we were not ready to > drop that kind of money on it. although I kinda wish we would have. Saisei > has had weird UDP traffic flow issues. We've had Voip and VPN issues where > we've had to bypass customers around the box until we rebooted. Thought it > was fixed but it's returned again. > > Gonna give pressem a try and see what happens. If it doesn't work not sure > what we will do. Only real option is mikrotik queues. I guess. > > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 8:53 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote: > > The biggest thing we are looking for is being able to keep customer > experience high even while they're using their plan. Our problem now is > someone will be using 50Mb/s sustained on the down, and their pings go high > and experience is worse than it should be. Trying to get buffer bloat down, > being able to prioritize different traffic behind others is nice as well. > We will see what happens. > > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:47 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote: > > Also testing out Preseem. Signed up at wispa, just got the boxes in the > network and can't wait to see what it can do. > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:29 PM Adair Winter <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Honestly, we loved procera. We are currently with Saisei but not overly > happy. > > About to do a preseem demo. > > I can send more detail if you'd like later. On mobile now. > > > > Adair > > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018, 5:10 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] wrote: > > Once upon a time there was just Procera. Then there was Saisei and then > Preseem. As of the recent WISPAPALOOZA it seems we also have Bequant, > which bills their product as a TCP proxy, which is not really what I’m > looking for. > > > > Can anyone relate success or horror stories with any of these, on or off > list? I have at least one WISP recommending Preseem, and they seem like > the latest hot thing. I am confused as to whether Sandvine/Procera is > still selling to the WISP market, and if so, what is their sales channel. > I just got off a conference call with Saisei, and everything sounded > reasonably good, no red flags. > > > > I could go ahead with a trial license from one of these guys, but it would > be good to know who is using what and how they like it. Anybody can have a > good Powerpoint presentation, the question is, how does it work in the real > world. > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 > C: 806.231.7180 > http://www.amarillowireless.net > [image: Image removed by sender.] <http://www.amarillowireless.net> > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >
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