When I started back in 2004 I was fully routed network using Star-OS routers/AP's WRAP boards, lol
On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 4:38 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > Everyone had to learn the hard way in the early days. My first WISP > started as a giant flat layer 2 network. Didn’t even know what a VLAN > was. > > Cheap managed switch, VLANs, every AP on a router via VLAN etc. Unless > routers are as cheap as switches these days that is how I would still be > building things. > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Friday, November 23, 2018 2:28 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Netonix > > > I’ve got towers with a router for all the backhauls and a managed switch > for the APs. And I’ve got 1 or 2 towers with 2 routers, one for all the > ins and outs, and another for the APs at that tower. I don’t connected > backhauls to switches. Although a switch with VLANs connected to a router > really blurs the lines since the router can route at L3 to the VLANs and > hence to ports on the switch. > > > > Something like a Mikrotik CCR1009 or CCR1036 has the ports connected > directly to the CPU. And even something like an RB1100AHx4 may have a > couple switch chips between the CPU and the Ethernet ports but other than a > 2.5 Gbps bottleneck per switch chip they are still routed ports (or can be). > > > > I think it’s more a question of separate hardware for lightning > protection, POE, switch and router, or combine some or all of them into one > box. Less wires, more to replace if it fails or gets zapped. Probably > also matters if you are putting it on the ground or up in the air. > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian > (List Account) > *Sent:* Friday, November 23, 2018 2:55 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Netonix > > > > The 'routers' that most WISP's use are really more like a L3 switch than a > router.... They usually have a switch chipset glued onto a CPU. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 1:51 PM Adair Winter <[email protected]> > wrote: > > How many sites do you have 15 or 20 radios on? We have a lot of them. > > > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 2:35 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > > In what way? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > [image: Image removed by sender.] <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image: > Image removed by sender.] > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image: > Image removed by sender.] > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image: > Image removed by sender.] <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > [image: Image removed by sender.] <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[image: > Image removed by sender.] > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[image: Image > removed by sender.] <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > [image: Image removed by sender.] > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[image: Image removed by > sender.] > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Adair Winter" <[email protected]> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Friday, November 23, 2018 2:31:59 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FS: Netonix > > connecting everything to the router doesn't scale. > > > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 2:01 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Yeah, it's two pieces to fail, but it's two pieces that most likely never > will fail... at least the PacketFlux. Personally, I like to have everything > connected directly to a MIkrotik router rather than messing with any > switches. > > > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 9:50 AM Matt Hoppes < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Mmmm. Two pieces to fail now :) > > > On Nov 23, 2018, at 10:40, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I'm going to Packet Flux Power Injectors and Mikrotik Switches > > > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 10:07 AM Colin Stanners <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Kurt, if you don't mind me asking, what equipment are you moving to? > > > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 9:01 AM Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> > wrote: > > have a bunch of Netonix switches for sale: > > > > > https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=kblazk&item=202512570080&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=netonix&_sacat=0 > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 > C: 806.231.7180 > http://www.amarillowireless.net > [image: Image removed by sender.] <http://www.amarillowireless.net> > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 > C: 806.231.7180 > http://www.amarillowireless.net > [image: Image removed by sender.] <http://www.amarillowireless.net> > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > > *Forrest Christian* *CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* > > Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 > > [email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com > > [image: Image removed by sender.] <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> > [image: Image removed by sender.] <http://facebook.com/packetflux> [image: > Image removed by sender.] <http://twitter.com/@packetflux> > > [image: Image removed by sender.][image: Image removed by sender.][image: > Image removed by sender.] > > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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