Check the V- side of the circuit - is it tied to 0v or is that the output?   

https://www.edn.com/design/analog/4320338/Op-amp-can-source-or-sink-current 
<https://www.edn.com/design/analog/4320338/Op-amp-can-source-or-sink-current>

version (e) looks a bit like what you have and they are using the negative rail 
of the chip as a constant current source.

Mark

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 3:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Nope.  The sensor is a different part of the circuit. 
>  
> From: Mark Radabaugh <>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 1:41 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Linear Circuit
>  
> Seems like one of those resistors is the sensor?   To me it looks like the 
> output is going to try to stay just over 3V but will lag ‘ref out’ up or down 
> if there is any voltage on it.    I can’t recall if op amps can sink current 
> or not.
>  
> The wife was annoyed that the contractor blew up the new fan hood for the 
> kitchen remodel with a dead short on the output.  A Replacement board was 8 
> weeks out.   “Can’t you get out your special catalog and fix it?”.   I 
> suppose - hum.. this circuit board is built to drive more than one fan.   
> Let’s take this SCR out and move it over here, solder a new fuse in here… yep 
> - don’t even need to order parts.
>  
> Mark
>  
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 2:43 PM, <[email protected] <>> <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>  
>> I am reverse engineering a temp control circuit on an electric tankless hot 
>> water heater. 
>> Manufacturer says no user replicable parts inside.  Oh yeah?
>>  
>> It has this as a reference voltage circuit (below) for a comparator to 
>> compare against a thermistor and pot combo. 
>> LM324
>>  
>> Odd taking a reference voltage from an input.  Have never seen this circuit 
>> before.  I think I have drawn it correctly.
>> The op amp will drive the output to minimize the differences between pins 
>> 5&6 so pin 6 should reflect the voltage of the divider with lower impedance. 
>>  
>> Anyone see why this wouldn’t work?  I was sure I had traced it incorrectly, 
>> but I think this really is the circuit. 
>> It seems the values of R10 and R11 are not critical.  Or are they?
>>  
>>  
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