Did you look at REFf with a scope? Is that an oscillator?

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 3:44 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

> They also have a pair of LEDs in parallel with each other but in series
> with the op amp power rail to indicate output.  Crazy all over the place.
>
> *From:* Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 4, 2018 2:29 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Linear Circuit
>
> Check the V- side of the circuit - is it tied to 0v or is that the
> output?
>
> https://www.edn.com/design/analog/4320338/Op-amp-can-source-or-sink-current
>
> version (e) looks a bit like what you have and they are using the negative
> rail of the chip as a constant current source.
>
> Mark
>
> On Dec 4, 2018, at 3:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Nope.  The sensor is a different part of the circuit.
>
> *From:* Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 4, 2018 1:41 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Linear Circuit
>
> Seems like one of those resistors is the sensor?   To me it looks like the
> output is going to try to stay just over 3V but will lag ‘ref out’ up or
> down if there is any voltage on it.    I can’t recall if op amps can sink
> current or not.
>
> The wife was annoyed that the contractor blew up the new fan hood for the
> kitchen remodel with a dead short on the output.  A Replacement board was 8
> weeks out.   “Can’t you get out your special catalog and fix it?”.   I
> suppose - hum.. this circuit board is built to drive more than one fan.
> Let’s take this SCR out and move it over here, solder a new fuse in here…
> yep - don’t even need to order parts.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2018, at 2:43 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I am reverse engineering a temp control circuit on an electric tankless
> hot water heater.
> Manufacturer says no user replicable parts inside.  Oh yeah?
>
> It has this as a reference voltage circuit (below) for a comparator to
> compare against a thermistor and pot combo.
> LM324
>
> Odd taking a reference voltage from an input.  Have never seen this
> circuit before.  I think I have drawn it correctly.
> The op amp will drive the output to minimize the differences between pins
> 5&6 so pin 6 should reflect the voltage of the divider with lower
> impedance.
>
> Anyone see why this wouldn’t work?  I was sure I had traced it
> incorrectly, but I think this really is the circuit.
> It seems the values of R10 and R11 are not critical.  Or are they?
>
>
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