I'm not sure anyone deploying coax cameras anymore is "doing it right". 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

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The Brothers WISP 




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From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 5:56:12 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi 



I am running into a lot of customers insisting on putting cheap WiFi cameras 
outside their metal buildings and expecting their WiFi to work on the other 
side of the Faraday cage. I think the right answer is “don’t do that”, but they 
don’t listen. I don’t think any of the solutions being discussed in this thread 
really addresses this problem. I do realize most ISPs don’t have a customer 
base where it is normal to have a metal pole building as a maintenance shop, 
barn, man cave, etc. 

I convinced one customer to call a CCTV company, which came out and installed 
wired (coax) analog cameras connected to an indoor network DVR with an Internet 
connection. That also eliminated the problem of each camera constantly 
streaming upstream video to a cloud DVR, the customer gets alerts and can 
remote into the DVR from his phone and view current or locally stored video. 
And he doesn’t have to pay a monthly fee for the cloud DVR. It’s amazing how 
when you “call the guy” and pay a few bucks, rather than getting a cheap 
Chinese DIY solution at Costco, it ends up being done right. 




From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Coudron 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 5:01 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> 
Subject: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi 

We have been running into more and more situations where customers either have 
homes that are too large to effectively cover with a good router, or have so 
many devices at the far end of the house from where their router has to be 
positioned that we are looking for good options to provide better whole house 
coverage. We have worked with Powerline extenders, but consider them to be too 
inconsistent for wide spread use, and have worked with some wireless extenders. 
The wireless extenders have a pretty big impact on wireless speed that we 
aren’t excited about them as a go forward solution. We also can’t log into the 
powerline or wireless extenders without some port forwarding work in their main 
router. We have played around with some mesh options, particularly the Ubiquiti 
Amplifi product, which we really like, but feel like it is not an option since 
we cannot manage it remotely. Netgear Orbi certainly seems like a viable 
option, but kind of spendy if you need 3 nodes. Cost isn’t necessarily an issue 
since customers will buy this equipment rather than us fund it, but we don’t 
want the solution to be so expensive no one opts for it. I know there has been 
a few threads on managed routers, but this seems like a little bit different 
take since we are going to have customers buy the equipment, but would like to 
be able to manage remotely. I suppose one option would be to still provide an 
inexpensive managed router as we currently do and have them manage the mesh 
system on their own. Any thoughts on what has worked well for whole house mesh 
systems, especially in a remote management situation? 

Regards, 

David Coudron 


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