I've purchased from a smaller telco/reseller.

On Saturday, December 22, 2018, Darin Steffl <[email protected]>
wrote:

> You have to buy direct from Calix.
>
> We upped our plan prices $10 per month for new subs and now give the
> router "free". We're slowly migrating existing customers to these new plans
> and putting the Calix in their home. We're about 60% complete with the
> process. It dramatically reduces the number of tech support calls related
> to wifi issues. Huge time saver, money maker, and keeping customers happy
> and churn low.
>
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 8:56 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] wrote:
>
>> The other piece of information that wasn’t apparent to me on casual
>> inspection is there’s a minimum sub count if you want to use their Cloud
>> features.  My take is you need to come at it from the perspective that all
>> your subs are going to get the Calix router, rather than viewing it as an
>> optional upsell.  At least if your WISP is relatively small.  If you have
>> 5000+ subs, that would be different.  You could go through a transition
>> with existing customers, but eventually it would be like a cable modem,
>> everyone gets one.  Either you throw it in for free, or charge a non
>> optional modem rental fee.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 22, 2018 7:23 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi
>>
>>
>>
>> I buy direct. I think that is how they do it with everyone.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Dec 22, 2018, at 6:20 PM, David Coudron <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Where do you purchase the Calix equipment from?   Our typical sources
>> don’t seem to carry them (Streakwave, Winncom, ISPSupplies, Linktechs,
>> etc.   Are you purchasing direct from Calix?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> David Coudron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2018 5:34 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi
>>
>>
>>
>> Calix is the only good method today for routers and a mesh solution that
>> can be managed by the ISP. Powerline adapters suck and we don't use them
>> anymore. WiFi extenders are just as bad and we tell customers to throw them
>> in the garbage. They cause more issues than they fix.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have 850+ Calix GigaCenters in the field and are deploying more of the
>> Mesh units. Everything is very easy to provision and we have full
>> visibility into the home network. Pricing is pretty good and we get to make
>> money on it instead of the customer just spending money on their own
>> solution. Sell it to the customer that we will warranty for the life of
>> their service with us.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 5:31 PM Jason McKemie <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The GigaSpire Max & Blast look intriguing.  Not sure on pricing as of yet
>> though.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 5:06 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Calix 844 has a mesh extender that supposedly has touchless
>> provisioning.  I have a mesh box at home to play with but still have not
>> taken it out of the box.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* David Coudron
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2018 4:01 PM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi
>>
>>
>>
>> We have been running into more and more situations where customers either
>> have homes that are too large to effectively cover with a good router, or
>> have so many devices at the far end of the house from where their router
>> has to be positioned that we are looking for good options to provide better
>> whole house coverage.   We have worked with Powerline extenders, but
>> consider them to be too inconsistent for wide spread use, and have worked
>> with some wireless extenders.   The wireless extenders have a pretty big
>> impact on wireless speed that we aren’t excited about them as a go forward
>> solution.   We also can’t log into the powerline or wireless extenders
>> without some port forwarding work in their main router.   We have played
>> around with some mesh options, particularly the Ubiquiti Amplifi product,
>> which we really like, but feel like it is not an option since we cannot
>> manage it remotely.   Netgear Orbi certainly seems like a viable option,
>> but kind of spendy if you need 3 nodes.   Cost isn’t necessarily an issue
>> since customers will buy this equipment rather than us fund it, but we
>> don’t want the solution to be so expensive no one opts for it.   I know
>> there has been a few threads on managed routers, but this seems like a
>> little bit different take since we are going to have customers buy the
>> equipment, but would like to be able to manage remotely.   I suppose one
>> option would be to still provide an inexpensive managed router as we
>> currently do and have them manage the mesh system on their own.   Any
>> thoughts on what has worked well for whole house mesh systems, especially
>> in a remote management situation?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> David Coudron
>>
>>
>>
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