That or POE.  I see very few businesses with WiFi security cams.  I think what 
it comes down to is once you are wiring the cameras to a central DVR or NVR, 
it’s cheaper to use analog cameras.  I’m assuming they can power them over the 
coax.

 

My point is that a WiFi camera outside a metal building trying to talk to the 
WiFi router inside the building is not good.  Especially since most WiFi 
cameras seem to  have very poor WiFi performance.

 

I keep seeing these cameras registered to managed routers with a signal around 
-80 and a WiFi rate something like 1 Mbps, and the customer doesn’t think it’s 
affecting his WiFi network, but he thinks his Internet is slow.  Rarely will a 
better router or a range extender help this situation, the camera should be 
wired.

 

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 6:03 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

 

I'm not sure anyone deploying coax cameras anymore is "doing it right".



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From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 5:56:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

I am running into a lot of customers insisting on putting cheap WiFi cameras 
outside their metal buildings and expecting their WiFi to work on the other 
side of the Faraday cage.  I think the right answer is “don’t do that”, but 
they don’t listen.  I don’t think any of the solutions being discussed in this 
thread really addresses this problem.  I do realize most ISPs don’t have a 
customer base where it is normal to have a metal pole building as a maintenance 
shop, barn, man cave, etc.

 

I convinced one customer to call a CCTV company, which came out and installed 
wired (coax) analog cameras connected to an indoor network DVR with an Internet 
connection.  That also eliminated the problem of each camera constantly 
streaming upstream video to a cloud DVR, the customer gets alerts and can 
remote into the DVR from his phone and view current or locally stored video.  
And he doesn’t have to pay a monthly fee for the cloud DVR.   It’s amazing how 
when you “call the guy” and pay a few bucks, rather than getting a cheap 
Chinese DIY solution at Costco, it ends up being done right.

 

 

From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf 
Of David Coudron
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 5:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

 

We have been running into more and more situations where customers either have 
homes that are too large to effectively cover with a good router, or have so 
many devices at the far end of the house from where their router has to be 
positioned that we are looking for good options to provide better whole house 
coverage.   We have worked with Powerline extenders, but consider them to be 
too inconsistent for wide spread use, and have worked with some wireless 
extenders.   The wireless extenders have a pretty big impact on wireless speed 
that we aren’t excited about them as a go forward solution.   We also can’t log 
into the powerline or wireless extenders without some port forwarding work in 
their main router.   We have played around with some mesh options, particularly 
the Ubiquiti Amplifi product, which we really like, but feel like it is not an 
option since we cannot manage it remotely.   Netgear Orbi certainly seems like 
a viable option, but kind of spendy if you need 3 nodes.   Cost isn’t 
necessarily an issue since customers will buy this equipment rather than us 
fund it, but we don’t want the solution to be so expensive no one opts for it.  
 I know there has been a few threads on managed routers, but this seems like a 
little bit different take since we are going to have customers buy the 
equipment, but would like to be able to manage remotely.   I suppose one option 
would be to still provide an inexpensive managed router as we currently do and 
have them manage the mesh system on their own.   Any thoughts on what has 
worked well for whole house mesh systems, especially in a remote management 
situation?

 

Regards,

 

David Coudron

 

 


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