What about cage-free, non-GMO cables? 



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From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 11:24:39 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio 



I bought a pair of Klipsch Forte III speakers earlier this year, replacing 40 
year old ElectroVoice acoustic suspension speakers I had already refoamed once. 
If you ever change your mind and want to buy some old fashioned speakers way 
bigger than 2” cubes, this is the place: 
https://www.paducahhometheater.com/ 
Way better pricing than a Best Buy or Crutchfield, drop shipped from the 
factory in pristine condition, and got me a special finish for a minimal extra 
charge. 
You would never find this store unless you live near Paducah KY or went to the 
Klipsch online forums. I think they also sell trailers for boats or something. 
How do they sound? You don’t really notice the speakers, which I think is a 
good thing. 
I haven’t tried oxygen free cables though. 



From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 10:53 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio 




I took a hearing test a few months ago. To my astonishment it came out to be 
perfect. Seems like everyone including the TV are mumbling, but I have good 
dynamic range, good sensitivity and good frequency response. 



My wife’s car has a bunch of audio equalization options. I always have to 
select one of the profiles that turn down the bass. She does not seem to notice 
the difference. 



I have never been much of an audiophile. Those tiny 2” square cube bose 
speakers you put up by the ceiling that fill a room sound awesome to me (OK 
they sounded awesome 20-30 years ago when I first heard them, not sure they 
still make them). The latest bose radio my wife bought has that waveguide 
system in it and it has too much bass for my taste. Original walkman seemed to 
be the best sound ever. 



I dunno, oxygen free speaker cables never sounded any better than my romex 
speaker cables to me. I do like a hot tube amp on an electric guitar though. 






From: Jason McKemie 

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 9:43 AM 

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio 



They used to have a policy (maybe still do) that retailers couldn't A-B their 
speakers with other brands. That alone is pretty telling. 

On Saturday, December 29, 2018, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: 



I think it's mainly a matter of good marketing, really. It seems to me that 
they mostly just made something that sounds a bit different, and then convinced 
people that it sounds better. 




On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 9:56 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: 
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Maybe the lesson is to know your market. "Most people" are not audiophiles, and 
"most people" probably have a taste for how music should sound. Credit Bose for 
figuring out what people like, and tailoring their product to provide it. The 
fact that they can do it with pedestrian components is a feather in their cap 
(and a plus to their bottom line). 
bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 

On 12/28/2018 11:46 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: 
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Bose is excellent at Turd-Polishing. 



Let me explain: Where a traditional provider might go and buy proper drivers 
with good response throughout the frequency range, and take care in designing a 
crossover, etc, when designing a speaker, Bose is more about taking reasonably 
ok speaker elements and then using signal processing to clean them up. If they 
have a bit of a weak spot say at the high or low end, they will boost those 
with dynamic equalization. If there is some phase distortion, often this can be 
cleaned up with DSP processing. And so on. 



Often this results in a better-sounding speaker than a traditional system. But 
this is not without compromise as sometimes the result is not as 'pure' as a 
decently designed traditional system. But for 99% of the people out there it's 
going to sound perfectly acceptable if not just as good as the expensive 
system. In some cases, you'd even find that many people prefer the sound from 
the Bose system since Bose often seems to optimize for the average listener's 
preferences instead of what a "true audiophile" would choose. Where an 
audiophile would look for flatness and purity, an average person just wants 
something which sounds pleasing with most things they'll play through it. If 
the system colors the playback a bit, but it sounds better, most people won't 
care. 




On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 7:02 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
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People say all the time that Bose sucks but I'm very happy with Bose in all the 
cars I've had it in as well as the "sound box" in the house. I'm definitely not 
an audiophile, though. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 






On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 4:09 PM Jason McKemie 
<[email protected]> wrote: 
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Bose has good marketing and not a lot else. 




On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 2:49 PM Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote: 
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Bose car audio (and home audio) is pretty terrible and far from accurate in 
most cars. I just bought a new car that has Bose ‘premium’ audio, and it sounds 
like absolute crap compared to my old car which had the premium HK stock 
system. 



... but, I’m sort of an audiophile, so most people probably won’t agree with 
me. 


On Dec 27, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: 
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Quality sounds great to me. But of course I've had Bose audio in all the cars 
with XM. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 






On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 9:21 AM Adair Winter <[email protected]> 
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quality varies across some of the stations I've noticed, depends on what you 
are listening to. talk radio is worse than some of the music channels. 




On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 8:17 AM Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> 
wrote: 
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But. The quality. Also Fox Headlines had commercials :( 


On Dec 27, 2018, at 09:11, Adair Winter <[email protected]> wrote: 
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because no commercials and the same stations everywhere it pretty cool. 






On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 8:00 AM Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> 
wrote: 
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We just got a new vehicle at work that includes XM radio for some period of 
time for free. 

Anyone else who’s had experience with XM: does it always sound like it’s 
compressed, digital and low fidelity? Why would anyone pay a subscription for 
this when I get high-fidelity FM free? 

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