It is NY as Carl Peterson said. Each town has their own highway
department and they do run their own plows and fix their own pot holes,
and yeah those roads are narrow. On those roads if you put in a pole or
bury a cable you need permission from the landowners because the town
doesn't really own it.
The Town tried to put in a water main on my parents' road without asking
anybody. One landowner dug the pipe back out of the ground just to
protest the point that they didn't ask him. The town was temporarily
forced to stop the project. I don't know how it finally played out, but
I imagine the town could demonstrate a public necessity and get their
water pipe in, but they had to go through the proper process. If you're
a telco you can do the eminent domain thing and force everybody into
giving you the easement, but for example the cable TV company can't do
that and they can be stuck if one landowner doesn't want to play ball.
I think that's a big part of why we have so much aerial stuff here. The
pole already has an easement, or else it's been there so long that
everybody assumes it does.
-Adam
On 1/3/2019 4:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:
What is a “local road”? Private driveways? Here if the county plows
it and the mail man drives on it it is a government entity controlled
road.
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Thursday, January 3, 2019 2:01 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Why some places don't have broadband yet
County and State roads I can get permission from the County and State
respectively. It's the local roads where I have an issue.
On 1/3/2019 3:45 PM, [email protected] wrote:
What he said. If there are other utilities there there is a utility
easement. Perhaps a prescriptive easement but an easement
nonetheless. Moreover, the county road has its own easement and the
county can let you use it.
*From:* Chuck Hogg
*Sent:* Thursday, January 3, 2019 1:35 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Why some places don't have broadband yet
ROW access usually still exists even if they own to the middle of the
road. Check your state statutes, in Kentucky it's 30' from the
centerline if undefined and many times it is defined as 60'. Might
need a county or state permit.
On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:32 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
The problem then is I need easements from each landowner along the
road. They technically own out to the middle of the road. I'm not
saying it can't be done, but if any one of them decides to be
intractable then the whole things was a waste of time.
-Adam
On 1/3/2019 10:47 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> Go rent a cable plow. If it is good plowing you will only need
it for
> a day or two.
> Cable plow rental = perhaps $2000
> Cable and conduit & misc= $7500
>
> You have 8 customers for $10K
> Say you get $50/customer, or $400 per month or $4800 per year...
>
> Who doesn't want 48% return on their money?
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett
> Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [AFMUG] Why some places don't have broadband yet
>
> I just got a quote for make-ready on a 2 mile stretch.
> $593,000
>
> I guess those 8 households will remain unserved because eff that.
>
>
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