Of the three I'd most rather work with county.  Very easy to get a county highway work permit. State of NY won't say no to putting utilities in, but their application process is a bit more daunting. Local roads are a huge question every time.  It could be extremely easy or extremely hard.

-Adam


On 1/3/2019 4:34 PM, Brian Webster wrote:

In NY there are state, county and local town roads. The town roads are sometimes not well defined so the easements are what they call edge of use. If the road centerline is defined legally then the ROW can be defined easily. Problem is a lot of these roads never had a proper legal description so the edge of use rules apply rather than a centerline.

Thank You,

Brian Webster

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*From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *[email protected]
*Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2019 4:17 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Why some places don't have broadband yet

What is a “local road”?  Private driveways?  Here if the county plows it and the mail man drives on it it is a government entity controlled road.

*From:*Adam Moffett

*Sent:*Thursday, January 3, 2019 2:01 PM

*To:*[email protected]

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Why some places don't have broadband yet

County and State roads I can get permission from the County and State respectively.  It's the local roads where I have an issue.

On 1/3/2019 3:45 PM, [email protected] wrote:

    What he said.  If there are other utilities there there is a
    utility easement.  Perhaps a prescriptive easement but an easement
    nonetheless.  Moreover, the county road has its own easement and
    the county can let you use it.

    *From:*Chuck Hogg

    *Sent:*Thursday, January 3, 2019 1:35 PM

    *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Why some places don't have broadband yet

    ROW access usually still exists even if they own to the middle of
    the road.  Check your state statutes, in Kentucky it's 30' from
    the centerline if undefined and many times it is defined as 60'. 
    Might need a county or state permit.

    On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:32 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
    wrote:

        The problem then is I need easements from each landowner along
        the
        road.  They technically own out to the middle of the road. 
        I'm not
        saying it can't be done, but if any one of them decides to be
        intractable then the whole things was a waste of time.

        -Adam


        On 1/3/2019 10:47 AM, [email protected] wrote:
        > Go rent a cable plow.  If it is good plowing you will only
        need it for
        > a day or two.
        > Cable plow rental = perhaps $2000
        > Cable and conduit & misc= $7500
        >
        > You have 8 customers for $10K
        > Say  you get $50/customer, or $400 per month or $4800 per
        year...
        >
        > Who doesn't want 48% return on their money?
        >
        >
        > -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett
        > Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:21 PM
        > To: [email protected]
        > Subject: [AFMUG] Why some places don't have broadband yet
        >
        > I just got a quote for make-ready on a 2 mile stretch.
        > $593,000
        >
        > I guess those 8 households will remain unserved because eff
        that.
        >
        >


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