When I was a kid in the 50’s, teacher was a highly respected position. Not now, and I’m not sure why. Another example was pilot for a major airline, now it’s like one step above Uber driver. Pilot for a regional airline is probably worse than Uber driver, low pay and treated like crap. These are the people who are teaching your kids and flying you around in the sky!
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 1:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers Are you guys a pass through LLC? Our accountant told us we were the poster child for the tax cuts. we made substantially more and paid substantially less taxes (yay for me!) then that same weekend I hung out with my friend who is a teacher and his tax bill was $10k higher than last year. I’m all for paying less taxes but not to the determinant of my friends who make substantially less and can’t afford an unexpected $10k hit to their income. Doesn’t seem very fair in my opinion. 2 cents -Sean On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 8:05 AM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote: Not for me either... Probably a 15-20% increase... On 05/30/2019 08:01 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > I heard on Marketplace yesterday that the tax cut and the tariffs almost > exactly cancel each other. > > and OBTW, it was not a tax cut for me by a long shot. > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 5/29/2019 6:16 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: >> Tariffs are a tax on consumers (ask any economist or dictionary.com >> <http://dictionary.com> >> <http://dictionary.com> - see below) >> >> Trump's tariffs have generated $72Billion in revenue (paid for by US >> consumers). Which for comparison is the largest tax hike since 1993. >> https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/16/trumps-tariffs-are-equivalent-to-one-of-the-largest-tax-increases-in-decades.html >> >> #MAGA >> >> >> tariff >> >> / (ˈtærɪf) / >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> noun >> >> 1. a tax levied by a government on imports or occasionally exports >> for purposes of protection,support of the balance of payments, or >> the raising of revenue >> 2. a system or list of such taxes >> >> >> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:32 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com >> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >> wrote: >> >> OK, some may think I’m getting into politics, but that is not my >> intention. >> >> It strikes me that we are starting to get things that look like >> taxes, swim like taxes, and quack like taxes, but are not treated >> like they’re taxes. Tariffs are starting to seem that way. >> Another example that bothers me more and more as the contribution >> rate goes up is USF. What is that other than a tax on long >> distance phone service? That generates a slush fund for some >> unelected bureaucrats to dispense. Mostly to big telcos. >> >> Normally taxes are passed by Congress, and they take the heat for >> it at the next election. Normally Congress also decides how to >> spend the revenue. >> >> As long as tariffs are relatively small, you can view them as part >> of trade policy. Same with USF, if it wasn’t so big, you could >> overlook that it is essentially a tax that nobody voted for, used >> for corporate welfare. >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> >> *On >> Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2019 5:37 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers >> >> I don't think there is much thought to how it works in the >> consumer level other than it is supposed to make the tariffed >> goods more expensive thereby making other options more competitive. >> >> In that respect, it is likely working. Changing global supply >> chain relationships doesn't move quickly though. Vietnam for >> instance has had trouble meeting the same standards as China. >> Seems hard to imagine but after a few decades of manufacturing for >> the US China has gotten pretty good at it. >> >> On Wed, May 29, 2019, 5:23 PM Jason McKemie >> <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com >> <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> >> <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com >> <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> >> wrote: >> >> One thing about the tariffs that is especially irritating to >> me is that if tariffs are imposed at, for example 30% on >> steel, then the domestic supplier just raises their prices by >> 29%. Is this the way that this is supposed to work? >> >> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 3:18 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com >> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >> wrote: >> >> I’m in the process of buying a couple Supermicro servers, >> and I’m told that due to tariffs, prices have already gone >> up around 10% and will be going up another 15% on or about >> June 1. >> >> Are others running into the same thing? It sounds like I >> need to place my order now. That’s not a trivial increase. >> >> We’ve also received tariff notifications from tower steel >> vendors, power supply vendors, cable vendors, and we saw >> Cambium increase prices a few months ago. Some of these >> like the steel and cable you just eat, but potentially >> everything we buy except bandwidth may be going up. 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