it started around the time engineer quit meaning you put in the work for the degree or drove a train.
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 2:03 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > When I was a kid in the 50’s, teacher was a highly respected position. > Not now, and I’m not sure why. Another example was pilot for a major > airline, now it’s like one step above Uber driver. Pilot for a regional > airline is probably worse than Uber driver, low pay and treated like crap. > These are the people who are teaching your kids and flying you around in > the sky! > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett > *Sent:* Thursday, May 30, 2019 1:00 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers > > > > Are you guys a pass through LLC? > > > > Our accountant told us we were the poster child for the tax cuts. we made > substantially more and paid substantially less taxes (yay for me!) then > that same weekend I hung out with my friend who is a teacher and his tax > bill was $10k higher than last year. I’m all for paying less taxes but not > to the determinant of my friends who make substantially less and can’t > afford an unexpected $10k hit to their income. Doesn’t seem very fair in > my opinion. > > > > 2 cents > > > > -Sean > > > > > > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 8:05 AM Robert Andrews <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Not for me either... Probably a 15-20% increase... > > On 05/30/2019 08:01 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > > I heard on Marketplace yesterday that the tax cut and the tariffs almost > > exactly cancel each other. > > > > and OBTW, it was not a tax cut for me by a long shot. > > > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 5/29/2019 6:16 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > >> Tariffs are a tax on consumers (ask any economist or dictionary.com > >> <http://dictionary.com> - see below) > >> > >> Trump's tariffs have generated $72Billion in revenue (paid for by US > >> consumers). Which for comparison is the largest tax hike since 1993. > >> > https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/16/trumps-tariffs-are-equivalent-to-one-of-the-largest-tax-increases-in-decades.html > >> > >> #MAGA > >> > >> > >> tariff > >> > >> / (ˈtærɪf) / > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> noun > >> > >> 1. a tax levied by a government on imports or occasionally exports > >> for purposes of protection,support of the balance of payments, or > >> the raising of revenue > >> 2. a system or list of such taxes > >> > >> > >> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:32 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> OK, some may think I’m getting into politics, but that is not my > >> intention. > >> > >> It strikes me that we are starting to get things that look like > >> taxes, swim like taxes, and quack like taxes, but are not treated > >> like they’re taxes. Tariffs are starting to seem that way. > >> Another example that bothers me more and more as the contribution > >> rate goes up is USF. What is that other than a tax on long > >> distance phone service? That generates a slush fund for some > >> unelected bureaucrats to dispense. Mostly to big telcos. > >> > >> Normally taxes are passed by Congress, and they take the heat for > >> it at the next election. Normally Congress also decides how to > >> spend the revenue. > >> > >> As long as tariffs are relatively small, you can view them as part > >> of trade policy. Same with USF, if it wasn’t so big, you could > >> overlook that it is essentially a tax that nobody voted for, used > >> for corporate welfare. > >> > >> *From:* AF <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2019 5:37 PM > >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers > >> > >> I don't think there is much thought to how it works in the > >> consumer level other than it is supposed to make the tariffed > >> goods more expensive thereby making other options more competitive. > >> > >> In that respect, it is likely working. Changing global supply > >> chain relationships doesn't move quickly though. Vietnam for > >> instance has had trouble meeting the same standards as China. > >> Seems hard to imagine but after a few decades of manufacturing for > >> the US China has gotten pretty good at it. > >> > >> On Wed, May 29, 2019, 5:23 PM Jason McKemie > >> <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> One thing about the tariffs that is especially irritating to > >> me is that if tariffs are imposed at, for example 30% on > >> steel, then the domestic supplier just raises their prices by > >> 29%. Is this the way that this is supposed to work? > >> > >> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 3:18 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> I’m in the process of buying a couple Supermicro servers, > >> and I’m told that due to tariffs, prices have already gone > >> up around 10% and will be going up another 15% on or about > >> June 1. > >> > >> Are others running into the same thing? It sounds like I > >> need to place my order now. That’s not a trivial increase. > >> > >> We’ve also received tariff notifications from tower steel > >> vendors, power supply vendors, cable vendors, and we saw > >> Cambium increase prices a few months ago. Some of these > >> like the steel and cable you just eat, but potentially > >> everything we buy except bandwidth may be going up. I > >> wonder if bandwidth suppliers will figure out a way to > >> jack up prices claiming tariffs! > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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