I think the biggest hurdle for them to serve residential customers is going
to be the cost of the phased array CPE. They seem to think they can get it
under $300 with mass production, but all of us should know what happens
when you put cheap complicated electronics up on peoples' roofs. I just
don't see them coming out with a fast, cheap, and reliable (pick two) CPE
any time soon, and I bet this is why they are now saying that their initial
business model is B2B.
On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 4:39 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
wrote:
> Consider, Starlink is going to be pretty busy for a good while replacing
> a lot of other legacy services, serving big customers like the US
> military, every mobile data service, and otherwise figuring out their
> business model for another 5 years. I think we might have a great shot
> at using these for replacing our backhauls for another 5 years after
> that before they start looking at actual consumer sales. Oh yeah and
> Tesla cars, gotta figure they are going to be including service through
> starlink with the antenna built in after a couple of year. IF the
> performance is good and the reliability doesn't suck I imagine every
> vehicle would look at this as a great alternative to cell service.+
>
> I cannot imagine they are going to be selling for less than $150/month
> for a good while...
>
> On 06/01/2019 02:22 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> > Naturally, we're all thinking about what effect this will have in rural
> > America, but I am also wondering if this would have some effect on
> > China's "great firewall"?
> >
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> > On 6/1/2019 1:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >>
> >> I think one factor advocacy groups and govt critters need to keep in
> >> mind is that instead of robust competition, what could occur is
> >> “disruptive” pricing, having the effect of discouraging or bankrupting
> >> the competition. And now some new entrant is the only game in town.
> >> And if it turns out to be unreliable, or not to have enough
> >> capacity, or their speeds are actually best effort, or their
> >> satellites start dropping out of the sky, or whatever, people can’t
> >> switch back to their old provider. Like being dissatisfied with
> >> online stores and assuming you can always switch back to the old brick
> >> and mortar store, from Uber and Lyft back to taxis and limos. Sorry,
> >> they don’t exist anymore.
> >>
> >> This is unlikely to happen in big cities, I doubt Comcast will go
> >> bankrupt because of Starlink. But to just assume there will be lots
> >> of choices out in the middle of nowhere driving the price down without
> >> any of them turning off the lights, seems a little naïve.
> >>
> >> And to assume big megacorps like SpaceX, Amazon, Googe, Facebook,
> >> etc. would never price below cost to be “disruptive” also seems naïve.
> >>
> >> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> >> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2019 3:20 PM
> >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX Says Its 60 Starlink Satellites Are All
> >> Phoning Home (and Fading Out) | Space
> >>
> >> Sure. But after the clouds, geostationary still needs to go another
> >> 23,000 miles. LEO only has to go a few hundred.
> >>
> >> bp
> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>
> >> On 6/1/2019 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
> >>
> >> Clouds are generally a lot lower than a couple hundred miles...
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 10:58 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Maybe at geostationary distances, but these are only a few
> >> hundred miles up.
> >>
> >> bp
> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>
> >> On 6/1/2019 8:56 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> >> > Don't those bands have significant attenuation issues with
> >> like...
> >> > clouds?
> >> >
> >> > On 6/1/19 10:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> >> >> According to Wikipedia, they will be on Ku, Ka, and V bands.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_(satellite_constellation)
> >> >>
> >> >> bp
> >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 6/1/2019 7:46 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
> >> >>> Wonder what frequencies they will use?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>
> https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellites-phone-home-dimming.html
> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
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