I think one factor advocacy groups and govt critters need to keep in mind is 
that instead of robust competition, what could occur is “disruptive” pricing, 
having the effect of discouraging or bankrupting the competition.  And now some 
new entrant is the only game in town.  And if it turns out to be unreliable, or 
not to  have enough capacity,  or their speeds are actually best effort, or 
their satellites start dropping out of the sky, or whatever, people can’t 
switch back to their old provider.  Like being dissatisfied with online stores 
and assuming you can always switch back to the old brick and mortar store, from 
Uber and Lyft back to taxis and limos.  Sorry, they don’t exist anymore.

 

This is unlikely to happen in big cities, I doubt Comcast will go bankrupt 
because of Starlink.  But to just assume there will be lots of choices out in 
the middle of nowhere driving the price down without any of them turning off 
the lights, seems a little naïve.

 

And to assume big megacorps like SpaceX, Amazon, Googe,  Facebook, etc. would 
never price below cost to be “disruptive” also seems naïve.

 

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2019 3:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX Says Its 60 Starlink Satellites Are All Phoning 
Home (and Fading Out) | Space

 

Sure. But after the clouds, geostationary still needs to go another 23,000 
miles. LEO only has to go a few hundred.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
 

On 6/1/2019 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Clouds are generally a lot lower than a couple hundred miles... 

 

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 10:58 AM Bill Prince <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Maybe at geostationary distances, but these are only a few hundred miles up.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 6/1/2019 8:56 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> Don't those bands have significant attenuation issues with like... 
> clouds?
>
> On 6/1/19 10:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> According to Wikipedia, they will be on Ku, Ka, and V bands.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_(satellite_constellation)
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 6/1/2019 7:46 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>> Wonder what frequencies they will use?
>>>
>>> https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellites-phone-home-dimming.html 
>>>
>>>
>>

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