It was mostly a dig at the lowest priced option a manufacturer makes probably is missing a variety of features one is used to.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 2:53:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Yes Mike, it's a Toyota. Not Pontiac. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Matt Hoppes" < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > To: "Mathew Howard" < mhoward...@gmail.com >, "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck OK... and? Still a far cry from $40 or $50. On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > That's $32,780... > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes > < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > <mailto: mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net >> wrote: > > That’s the current model. > > Here’s the bill of sale: > > image1.jpeg > > On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman > < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto: j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >> > wrote: > >> That's $36k, 20% more... >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes >> < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net >> <mailto: mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net >> wrote: >> >> I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back to the office. >> >> Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No issue. >> >> Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k. >> >> <image1.png> >> >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman >> < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >> <mailto: j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >> wrote: >> >>> You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a year? >>> Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they sell >>> remarkably bad. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert >>> < i...@avantwireless.com <mailto: i...@avantwireless.com >> wrote: >>> >>> Last year lot sitter, sure.... >>> >>> On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled, Tundra for >>>> $30k, Especially with options. There's no way they're >>>> doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else with a >>>> single quantity purchase. I'll believe 30k when I see >>>> the bill of sale. >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes >>>> < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net >>>> <mailto: mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net >> wrote: >>>> >>>> I absolutely know what trucks cost and $50-$60k is >>>> way too much. We >>>> purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two years ago >>>> for $30k... outfitted >>>> well. >>>> >>>> On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>>> > To be consistent with my feelings on their semi >>>> truck, as long as the >>>> > performance, specifications, reliability, utility >>>> are as promised, I >>>> > care much less about how it appears. >>>> > >>>> > That $40k price point is nice, though I'd want at >>>> least the $50k to have >>>> > AWD. >>>> > >>>> > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, that too >>>> much money for a truck." >>>> > Clearly they have no idea what trucks cost. I >>>> haven't seen what the >>>> > electric ATV costs. >>>> > >>>> > I also wonder what else changes between the tiers. >>>> Adding more motors >>>> > shouldn't add to the range of the vehicle, so >>>> what's happening with the >>>> > battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries >>>> shouldn't make it faster, so >>>> > what's up with the extra motors? >>>> > >>>> > I'm more willing to admit I don't need to pull a >>>> house with my daily >>>> > driver because I can always get something from the >>>> farm. I just want it >>>> > to be big enough to handle most things. Hell, even >>>> the 14k towing would >>>> > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer. >>>> > >>>> > I wonder how trailers work with the EVs... how >>>> easy is it to add (or >>>> > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth wheel, etc. >>>> > >>>> > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau cover. Maybe >>>> Rivian had it >>>> > available and I just forgot. Nice place to store a >>>> bunch of tools for a >>>> > work truck, though no place to add a ladder rack. >>>> > >>>> > I was annoyed they didn't have battery specs, but >>>> I suppose that could >>>> > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if they need >>>> 100 or 110 kw to meet >>>> > their advertised performance numbers. >>>> > >>>> > Weight would be nice to know as well. >>>> > >>>> > I'm not surprised on the design. All else equal, >>>> I'd probably prefer the >>>> > Rivian, but let's see how things actually bare >>>> out. What's the "mpg" >>>> > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ----- >>>> > Mike Hammett >>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> < http://www.ics-il.com/ > >>>> > >>>> < https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL >< >>>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb >< >>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions >< >>>> https://twitter.com/ICSIL > >>>> > Midwest Internet Exchange < http://www.midwest-ix.com/ > >>>> > >>>> < https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix >< >>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange >< >>>> https://twitter.com/mdwestix > >>>> > The Brothers WISP < http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ > >>>> > < https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> < https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" < af...@kwisp.com >>>> <mailto: af...@kwisp.com >> >>>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>>> < af@af.afmug.com <mailto: af@af.afmug.com >> >>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 9:25:31 AM >>>> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck >>>> > >>>> > I was expecting to see some comments from this >>>> crowd. 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