Hard disagree. The 844G is *CHEAP* compared to ONT+WiFi Router in terms of hardware. Having one box/troubleshoot point is a nice cost savings, too.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > There's no way Calix will get a dime from me. Everything is so expensive > compared to alternatives. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:29:01 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest > > What does Calix get you for on the management? I've been looking into > some options for managed routers, and I like the 844E, but Calix is pretty > proud of their management platform and it just doesn't make a lot of sense > for the number of managed routers we would be deploying right now. > > I'm wondering if anyone out there has any experience with Ubiquiti's Dream > Machine (unfortunate name, since Sony has been using it for a couple of > decades). At least Ubiquiti has a management platform that I don't need to > sacrifice my firstborn for. > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:47 AM Darin Steffl <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Guys, >> >> Start heavily pushing managed routers. We're all Calix with 804mesh and >> we include the first router free in all our plans. >> >> Makes a huge difference. >> >> Google wifi is bad because there's no way to manually set the 5ghz >> channel away from our radio. We have one customer we told this and that >> their service will stink until they switch to our router or get a different >> mesh system like orbi where you can still set the channel manually. >> >> We also do not support any speedtest except speedtest.net and selecting >> one server we like. Also they have to be hardwired to the POE or we won't >> respond to their tests. This eliminates much of the back and forth wifi >> speedtests. >> >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 11:34 AM Matt Hoppes < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I've had a slew of wifi related calls this week. Plug in, no issue. >>> WiFi -- interference - customer needs to get a dual band router, or it's >>> so bad it's just not fixable. >>> >>> I really just want to tell folks "WiFi is not supported on our service, >>> use at your own risk"... but of course, I can't do that. >>> >>> On 1/23/20 11:54 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> > Anybody know if the speedtest built into the Google and Nest WiFi mesh >>> > routers use the same M-Lab speedtest as the one a Google search sends >>> > you to? Their FAQ seems to indicate it is different and tests to >>> > Youtube servers. >>> > >>> > Apparently they have a feature where customers can set it up to >>> > periodically test their speed, and now I have customers calling in to >>> > report that their router says they aren’t getting the speed they’re >>> > paying for. We burn a bunch of time checking all the stats, including >>> > Preseem which shows no problems at all and actual traffic consistently >>> > to the speed plan they’re on. When asked what they were trying to do >>> > that was slow or when they ran the speedtest, they can’t cite any >>> > problems and the speedtests were done days ago and they are just >>> > reviewing the Google report. >>> > >>> > One guy said the Google report indicated his dish moved in a windstorm >>> > so we needed to come out and fix it. We have all sorts of graphs on >>> his >>> > signal, SNR, etc. and his dish had not moved. We had however moved >>> this >>> > tower onto Preseem for bandwidth management around that time. >>> Everyone >>> > else is seeing better performance as a result, video streaming, gaming >>> > and web browsing now play nice together. I’m wondering if somehow the >>> > Google speedtest doesn’t like the Preseem algorithms (FQ-CODEL + AQM), >>> > or if their speedtest is just flakey. >>> > >>> > I don’t have a Google or Nest WiFi to test with. We have a whole list >>> > of other reasons why we hate them. Generally we tell customers not to >>> > buy them unless they are on a 3.65 GHz AP, but customers like to say >>> > screw you and then still expect you to be responsible for their bad >>> > decisions. (Like the customers who select the cheap plan despite >>> being >>> > told it is too slow to watch streaming video, and then call to >>> complain >>> > about streaming video.) >>> > >>> > Other reasons we hate them: >>> > >>> > - no dedicated backhaul channel, compared to (for example) Netgear Orbi >>> > >>> > - only 1 or 2 Ethernet ports >>> > >>> > - requires Google account and app >>> > >>> > - requires cloud >>> > >>> > - uses Google DNS by default >>> > >>> > - tell me they’re not doing data mining >>> > >>> > - puck and point terminology is goofy, reminiscent of Apple and their >>> > airports and time capsules >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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