This is a great idea.  We are planning to provide a way to do this in the not 
too distant future.  Stay tuned…

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 7:39 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

Pay per successful install would be good.   Win-win.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 5:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

I would bet they would be able to get something arranged. You never know if you 
don't ask. I know one isp in the same boat, 150 towers, lots of hills, I can 
see the price being too high. But the other part where they help identify best 
locations to cover from may be worth it. Less towers and more coverage is 
always good. Planting people seeds would be good too. But they're hard to keep 
watered.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 6:50 PM SmarterBroadband 
<li...@sbb.net<mailto:li...@sbb.net>> wrote:
I would love to give it a go.   But the pricing model of per site does not work 
for us.  We have to have many small sites because of hills and trees , over 90 
currently.   I can see if you had a few mega sites it could make sense.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On 
Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:15 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

much much more than free
but much much less input and much much much more output
I had the same question, and skepticism, until i saw the data and applied it to 
our real world.
The way I look at it, radio mobile costs zero. A no line of site generates 
zero, so thats a wash on its face. but the truck rolled and other jobs werent 
done, so theres a net loss. that in itself probably scales to the price over 
the course of the customer we missed.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:10 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
wrote:
What does it cost?  More than Radio Mobile...?

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:04 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] CNHeat

I dont know if many of you degenerates over here still do this pasky WISP 
stuff, but I am demoing CNHeat, this is a literal game changer, we took a no 
line of site this morning to install. we would have walked away, btu happened 
to have the CNHeat for the location. found the spot, great signal (we actually 
missed it because walking the roof and the scan time didnt grab it)

there was  a marginal spot we considered, this would have been bad long term.

we went through migrating a few hundred customers off 320 to EPMp the last few 
months, this would have been a godsend, half of them will need to be revisited 
in spring when leaves come out, but we were pressing to clear 320 to make room 
for 450 cbrs stuff

your installer can walk out the door each morning with a picture and have a 
best location target, install survey times will be minimized and youll know 
youre well beyond first good spot, and on the probably best spot.

I dont come across a product im this excited about too often. If I had the time 
id go look at the last years NLOS and see where we missed revenue options. And 
this is just IDENTIFY the other two components are crazy perfect too

like anything, youll need to know how to look at the data, and its only as good 
as the data you put in, I think we are all familiar with that here.

This is nowhere near free, but i think abut how much less I can do on my Access 
points because of marginal installs, and how much we have lost in NLOS that 
didnt need to be
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