Man I wish I had saved a few antennas from the years I was making them.  
I can still build the waveguide adapters.  That is easy for me.  

I wonder what the chance of getting caught running unlicensed is...

Anyone have any used gear they want to sell me?

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 8:43 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x

How much more is it, though, for better radios if you need the better dishes, 
yet have to buy the Ubiquiti dishes anyway?

AF11 kit with dishes (that you'll just throw away) 
N to waveguide adapters
Good dish

vs.

Better radio
Good dish




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From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 9:21:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x


I used Comsearch for the last few we did... the price wasn't much different at 
the time, but I have no idea if that's still the case. 

Ken is right about the performance... you basically get he same throughput out 
of dual pol that higher end radios get on single pol. It only really matters if 
the area is congested, but if it is, you may need to spend more and get better 
radios.

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 8:51 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  So is Liz still the best value for freq coordination and license prep?

  From: Ken Hohhof 
  Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 7:34 AM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x

  I don’t have any AF11X and may be remembering wrong, but I think you 
basically have to coordinate dual pol, for single pol performance.  So if 
you’re in a congested area, it might be marginally more difficult to coordinate 
because you won’t have the option of using single pol if only V or H is 
available.  V is usually preferred because of less rain fade, so sometimes H is 
still available.  Bottom line, might want to do frequency coordination before 
buying hardware.



  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 7:15 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x



  Thanks.

  Sent from my iPhone





    On May 8, 2020, at 11:01 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

    

    The kit is available with high band duplexers. 



    But yeah, last I checked, the AF11 is still only in stock anywhere in kit 
form, so it makes sense to just go with the Ubiquiti dishes (which should be 
fine for 7 miles anyway), So you'd be at about $3200 for the hardware (2 kits 
plus two more duplexers to do mimo). If I remember correctly, coordination and 
licensing was somewhere around $1600 on the last link we did, so you'll 
probably end up right around $5K total.



    I haven't ever had any problem finding an open frequency, but that 
completely depends on the area.



    On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 6:15 PM Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com> 
wrote:

      Additionally if you get a high band allotment you’ll need new duplexes 
all the way around. 



      On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 3:48 PM Jesse DuPont 
<jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> wrote:

        Yes. The AF11x "kit" (two radios, two duplexers, two antennas) is 
$1500, need two more duplexers if doing MIMO - another $500 ish. Then $2K (at 
the most) for the coordination/licensing fees. If you want better antennas than 
the UBNT ones in the kit, they'll be over and above. Radiowaves and KP make 
good ones (they're the same antenna, actually).



         

        Jesse DuPont

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        email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
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        On 5/8/20 4:41 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

          $4K, both radios, both antennas and a license?



          From: Jesse DuPont 

          Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 4:39 PM

          To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; ch...@wbmfg.com 

          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x



          About $4K, 700 Mbps. Open freqs completely depends on your location. 
Might have to upgrade antennas.

           

          Jesse DuPont

          Owner / Network Architect
          email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
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          On 5/8/20 3:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

            What is the cost, all in, license, antennas, everything for a 
system that will do 7 miles?

            What throughput will that have?

            How likely is it to find an open frequency?









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