+100 On Mon July 20 2020 11:04, Brian Webster wrote: > In Portland part of the protest and occupy movement protesters were trying > to camp out in a FEDERAL PARK downtown. This attempt to occupy federal > property has not happened in other cities that I am aware of and hence the > different agencies involved. That Park director requested more federal law > enforcement help in getting the people off the park grounds and not allow > them to camp there. This was not a case of the black helicopters coming and > federal officers taking over local law enforcement authority from the > locals. If was Federal Law Enforcement protecting federal property. In ALL > law enforcement agencies it is not unusual for plain clothes officers, > detectives etc. to have unmarked vehicles and use them when making arrests. > This is hardly unusual police activity if you look at the whole picture. > Local law enforcement does this type of thing all of the time. If these > federal officers had identified people who committed a crime on federal > property and then fled, they are within their law enforcement powers to > directly pursue and apprehend them even if the apprehension is not on > federal property. Local and state officers have the same powers. It's not > typically used but it's not unheard of for say a police officer to pursue > someone who they believe has committed a felony and cross a state line. > That officer is fully empowered to make that arrest in the other state. It > has happened many times and the laws have been upheld to allow for this. > There are also still the power to effect a citizen's arrest as well. Nobody > likes to do it because it gets messy legally after the fact but that is > still allowed in this country. > > Before people get outraged at what the press is telling them is happening, > they should take a step back and gather their own facts and knowledge and > not be so quick to accept some "experts" statements. You all know how bad a > journalist can butcher up a technical article on stuff we do and work with, > what makes us think they are any smarter in the field of law or medicine? > > https://kval.com/news/local/police-remove-occupy-portland-campers-from-park >?fbclid=IwAR0dSQqKXj_ikwqmSfvMvvPtOVoFVhGjwrH126Lhiomx3iZXlxTUGtT2S7E > > "This morning, at request and at the lead of the US Federal Protective > Service, the Portland Police helped remove campers at Shrunk Plaza, which > is federal property across the street from Chapman Square," Adams wrote. > "The campers who were arrested - an estimated 8 to 10 people - at Shrunk > Plaza were detained by federal police and cited under US federal law. > Initial reports indicate arrests were completed in a peaceful manner." > > > > Thank you, > Brian Webster > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 11:41 AM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political > > I don't think I'd like it if Obama had dispatched federal troops to > "Republican-led cities" claiming they are stupidly and conservatively run. > > It also doesn't make me comfortable having Ken Cuccinelli driving this. > Not a guy who should have the power to send troops to your city for > political reasons, or any reason. Andy Taylor would make him keep his one > bullet in his shirt pocket. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Larry Smith > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 10:20 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political > > The US Border Patrol is a part of the Immigration and Naturalization > Service. > > -- > Larry Smith > [email protected] > > On Mon July 20 2020 10:14, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I thought I read they admitted to being Customs & Border Patrol, at > > least in Portland. But yes other reports say that a force was > > assembled from various federal agencies so maybe also US Marshals. > > > > > > > > They have been using border patrol in questionable ways for awhile, > > like setting up roadblocks on highways hundreds of miles from any border. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince > > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 9:56 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political > > > > > > > > The National Guard is a state resource. I think he can request it, but > > I'm not sure he can command it. > > > > What I read, they were US Marshals, and other unidentified federal > > resources. > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > > > On 7/20/2020 7:41 AM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Yeah, you gotta wonder what their orders were. > > > > Doesn’t a president normally activate the National Guard when extra > > help is needed? > > > > These guys were – what? Homeland Security? ICE? > > > > > > > > From: Jaime Solorza > > > > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:35 AM > > > > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political > > > > > > > > Hitler tactics by Bunker Boy...there , I said it. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 2:49 PM <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > Not trying to break lent, but I am lacking understanding. > > > > > > > > What are the young white kids rioting about in Portland? > > > > > > > > I am from Oregon, I remember protests in the 60s and 70s over Vietnam. > > I also remember a line of State Police walking through a park downtown > > and busting heads of those that did not clear out. Actually one of my > > first telco bosses had been one of those State Bull Cops. > > > > > > > > Are young white kids just aching for a chance at anarchy? I don’t get > > it. > > > > Misbehaving while trying to wrap some kind of noble cause around you > > is pretty childish. > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > _____ > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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