Yeah....I think sometimes lightning does what lightning wants. And I don't think we understand it as well as we would like to believe.  We've certainly seen incinerated surge protectors, so they do the job at least some of the time.

I do think there was some magic in the old Canopy plastic box. There was no electrical connection to anything except via the Cat5 with it's surge protector.  That would seem to fly in the face of R56, but we didn't have lightning trouble with those hardly ever.


On 8/31/2020 9:47 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
We had a similar situation. No amount of grounding can protect you 100%. You'll lose AP's on direct strikes. Hopefully the surges will protect your cabinet guts.

We co-locate on a couple towers with an electric coop. They way over-engineer all their installs. As you might expect, their grounding policies are super strict. However, they tend to lose equipment far more often than we do.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 8:28 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I've regularly used the 444 cards.  Pretty much exclusively for
    years we've been using the GIGE-APC-HV.

    On a tower with 9 devices, I lost 8 of them.  We've had 0 problems
    on this tower since adding the surge cards almost 6 years ago.  A
    mix of Ubnt/Cambium.  The one device that survived was a
    Powerbridge (the shitty panel) with one of the old surge cards
    that has an LED on it indicating power.  All 8 other devices
    needed to be replaced on the tower.

    What should I expect the surge cards to do?  I keep reading that
    the card should sacrifice itself so we can just replace the card
    on the ground instead of the radio on the tower - better for a 1
    person fix, way cheaper, ground instead of tower, faster, etc. 
    The tower owner is a big Motorola R56 guy and gave us the thumbs
    up with how we did the grounding.

    Did I just get screwed hard for some reason?  An employee of the
    tower owner came out and had to fix some of their gear for their
    two way Motorola radio stuff, too, so maybe it was just a really
    shitty day.

    Josh Luthman
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    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373
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