The Tik is grounded to the bus bar. The surge cards use the WBMFG metal boxes which ground to the same ground, but a different bus bar.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 10:30 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > And was the Tik connected to the surge suppressors? > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2020 8:21 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Surge cards, what should I expect? > > Surge cards are only inside the building. > > We lost 0 ethernet ports on the Tik. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 9:59 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We’ve gone to the “Cat6” (gas tube) versions but I don’t think that has >> any bearing on your question, if anything they may offer less protection, >> but better Ethernet data integrity. >> >> >> >> Are you putting these at both ends of the cable, or only at the switch or >> router end? >> >> >> >> I never assume they protect the radios, unless the surge is coming from >> the network side, e.g. a power line surge. They protect the network >> equipment like switch, router or POE. If the surge is coming from the >> radio end, my personal opinion is a surge protector may actually increase >> the chance of radio damage by giving the surge a path to ground via the >> cable. But let’s face it, if the tower take a hit, you may lose equipment >> no matter what you do for grounding or surge protection. Best bet may be >> fiber for data and a direct power cable with a DC surge protector right at >> the radio. >> >> >> >> Strange that the Powerbridge was the only survivor, as you say, it’s not >> exactly a high end piece of equipment, basically a Rocket PCB built into a >> panel antenna. But it might be interesting to do a failure analysis on the >> stuff that died. Most of the time I find it’s the power supply that got >> fried, the radio won’t even power up. I looked at a Transtector product >> once that had fuses in the protection modules, that would seem to mean you >> always have to replace the modules after a surge, but maybe the fuse >> opening up is better for the radio. >> >> >> >> I suspect you just had a bad day. It happens despite best efforts. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2020 8:27 AM >> *To:* AFMUG <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Surge cards, what should I expect? >> >> >> >> I've regularly used the 444 cards. Pretty much exclusively for years >> we've been using the GIGE-APC-HV. >> >> >> >> On a tower with 9 devices, I lost 8 of them. We've had 0 problems on >> this tower since adding the surge cards almost 6 years ago. A mix of >> Ubnt/Cambium. The one device that survived was a Powerbridge (the shitty >> panel) with one of the old surge cards that has an LED on it indicating >> power. All 8 other devices needed to be replaced on the tower. >> >> >> >> What should I expect the surge cards to do? I keep reading that the card >> should sacrifice itself so we can just replace the card on the ground >> instead of the radio on the tower - better for a 1 person fix, way cheaper, >> ground instead of tower, faster, etc. The tower owner is a big Motorola >> R56 guy and gave us the thumbs up with how we did the grounding. >> >> >> >> Did I just get screwed hard for some reason? An employee of the tower >> owner came out and had to fix some of their gear for their two way Motorola >> radio stuff, too, so maybe it was just a really shitty day. >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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