The Tik was definitely not damaged. Did the surge suppressors protect it? I don't know, I guess that's part of my question here.
Never seen a surge suppressor blown I don't think. Never seen one charred. I have had to swap them out in a few cases to fix ethernet problems. >Some folks have surge suppressors at the top, some at the bottom, some at top and bottom. Do you have any data on which is best? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 10:49 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > OK, but did the surge suppressors protect the Tik? > > Nearby strikes induce hundreds to thousands of volts per meter in all > conductors. > Most of the stories I hear is that the surge suppressor is blown to bits > but the devices it is connected to are OK. > But the closer the strike, the more damage. > > Some folks have surge suppressors at the top, some at the bottom, some at > top and bottom. > > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2020 8:35 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Surge cards, what should I expect? > > The Tik is grounded to the bus bar. The surge cards use the WBMFG metal > boxes which ground to the same ground, but a different bus bar. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 10:30 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > >> And was the Tik connected to the surge suppressors? >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2020 8:21 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Surge cards, what should I expect? >> >> Surge cards are only inside the building. >> >> We lost 0 ethernet ports on the Tik. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 9:59 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> We’ve gone to the “Cat6” (gas tube) versions but I don’t think that has >>> any bearing on your question, if anything they may offer less protection, >>> but better Ethernet data integrity. >>> >>> >>> >>> Are you putting these at both ends of the cable, or only at the switch >>> or router end? >>> >>> >>> >>> I never assume they protect the radios, unless the surge is coming from >>> the network side, e.g. a power line surge. They protect the network >>> equipment like switch, router or POE. If the surge is coming from the >>> radio end, my personal opinion is a surge protector may actually increase >>> the chance of radio damage by giving the surge a path to ground via the >>> cable. But let’s face it, if the tower take a hit, you may lose equipment >>> no matter what you do for grounding or surge protection. Best bet may be >>> fiber for data and a direct power cable with a DC surge protector right at >>> the radio. >>> >>> >>> >>> Strange that the Powerbridge was the only survivor, as you say, it’s not >>> exactly a high end piece of equipment, basically a Rocket PCB built into a >>> panel antenna. But it might be interesting to do a failure analysis on the >>> stuff that died. Most of the time I find it’s the power supply that got >>> fried, the radio won’t even power up. I looked at a Transtector product >>> once that had fuses in the protection modules, that would seem to mean you >>> always have to replace the modules after a surge, but maybe the fuse >>> opening up is better for the radio. >>> >>> >>> >>> I suspect you just had a bad day. It happens despite best efforts. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>> *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2020 8:27 AM >>> *To:* AFMUG <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Surge cards, what should I expect? >>> >>> >>> >>> I've regularly used the 444 cards. Pretty much exclusively for years >>> we've been using the GIGE-APC-HV. >>> >>> >>> >>> On a tower with 9 devices, I lost 8 of them. We've had 0 problems on >>> this tower since adding the surge cards almost 6 years ago. A mix of >>> Ubnt/Cambium. The one device that survived was a Powerbridge (the shitty >>> panel) with one of the old surge cards that has an LED on it indicating >>> power. All 8 other devices needed to be replaced on the tower. >>> >>> >>> >>> What should I expect the surge cards to do? I keep reading that the >>> card should sacrifice itself so we can just replace the card on the ground >>> instead of the radio on the tower - better for a 1 person fix, way cheaper, >>> ground instead of tower, faster, etc. The tower owner is a big Motorola >>> R56 guy and gave us the thumbs up with how we did the grounding. >>> >>> >>> >>> Did I just get screwed hard for some reason? An employee of the tower >>> owner came out and had to fix some of their gear for their two way Motorola >>> radio stuff, too, so maybe it was just a really shitty day. >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> ------------------------------ >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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