yeah, i guess its not new, at least Obama was better looking On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 3:26 PM Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Uhhh Nixon > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 3:12 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> it used to be sitting presidents didnt spy on incoming presidents, or at >> least get caught in the act. >> I dont think there will be much of a pulpit left for anyone. The left >> had already "unfriended anyone who disagreed with them and isolated >> themselves, then attacked any public space where any dissent would sit. so >> the "racists" (a term used by morons with no depth) started moving >> elsewhere with their time and money. >> Nobody really listens to anything outside what they want to hear, so >> pulpits arent very relevant today. but kids are remote now, less >> indoctrination, so theyll start being "racists" soon too. You lose a ton of >> control when you lose a year of indoctrination. >> It is kind of fun watching whats going on at fox lately. Things started >> turning when that bigot smith left, I didnt care for his hate, but I liked >> 90 percent of his reporting. but once he left it was like they tried to >> fill the agenda void internally and it turned into a pundit brawl. Hannity >> went the way of Glenn beck, its a matter of time til hes wearing kleenex >> box shoes and talking to cats, Tucker went from being a fun prick to just >> being a prick, levin doesnt even hide his hatred of jews anymore, Its like >> they decided they wanted to be jokes like lemon, cuomo, and cooper, but >> multiplied to below the levels of msnbc, ratings reflective. >> >> this whole thing is literally hilarious, watching the mirror image of >> 2016 happen. the arrogant hypocrisy is great. I have to admit, I havent >> been keeping up on most of it, since i watched it all in the 2016 season. >> But I do enjoy the highlight reels. The best part of it is watching the >> "winners" still melting down, as expected. I am kinda disapponted that the >> "losing" team isnt our burning cities like they 2016 losers did, but I >> guess nobody expected anything different in that regard, turds dont polish. >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 2:34 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> Used to be that former presidents never criticized sitting presidents. >>> >>> That went out the window with Obama/Trump. >>> >>> Now, it will be interesting to see if anyone will give Trump a pulpit >>> from which to speak. Will he become a fox news feature? Perhaps at Miss >>> America he will pontificate. I am sure he will not be able to resist >>> seeking publicity. >>> >>> *From:* Ken Hohhof >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2020 1:26 PM >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>> >>> >>> Hmmm, I forgot he is DJ Trump. Maybe his next career can be as a >>> rapper, he already has the name. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2020 2:08 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>> >>> >>> >>> www.loser.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 8:03 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> This is why the left cant meme. The lack of detail. Memelords would >>> never have allowed that tie to make it through QC. 1/10 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:31 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yep.. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 9:38 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> The memes will be epic. The memelords havent even started shitposting, >>> which is odd. This is a 2 of 10 gem. The covid death memes from the street >>> "celebrations" are going to be particularly ruthless. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 10:26 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> God this is more entertaining than 2016 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 10:12 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Barr is a Trump puppet. >>> >>> >>> https://www.facebook.com/1542846845827136/posts/3249813925130411/?sfnsn=mo >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 7:07 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: >>> >>> The only thing just getting started is the next level of FUD from the DUD >>> >>> On 11/9/20 5:51 PM, Chuck Macenski wrote: >>> >>> From Wikipedia: *The Gateway Pundit* is an American far-right >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_right_(United_States)>[9] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit#cite_note-9> news and >>> opinion website. The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, >>> and conspiracy theories >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories>.[17] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit#cite_note-17> >>> >>> >>> >>> If someone has credible evidence that would overturn the election, it >>> should absolutely be brought before the courts. At the moment, all of the >>> evidence seems to point to a fair election where Donald Trump lost by over >>> 4,000,000 votes. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 7:34 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Bullshit ..pure Bullshit >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 5:39 PM justsumname <unixday...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> this thing is just getting started, gents. It's only Monday. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-ag-barr-authorizes-federal-prosecutors-pursue-substantial-allegations-voting-irregularities-2020-election-certified/ >>> >>> >>> >>> RealClearPolitics un-calls Pennsylvania for Biden. The state is grey >>> on their map, now. Was Blue yesterday. >>> >>> >>> >>> I do not understand the vitriol against Mr Trump. He's been an >>> excellent President for all Americans. >>> >>> No I didn't ask... I can read everyone's comments, and I have. For >>> years. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 6:16 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>> I wish they could invent a secure method to vote online. But it has to >>> be resistant to buying and selling votes. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 9, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> It's pretty straight forward to verify integrity of the vote. We have >>> already dont it with covid test results. We are blind ballot meaning no one >>> can see who you voted for. Covid result eliminated anyone's ability to >>> claim their vote was stolen or manipulated since you can check your results >>> with your code. You can do the same without recording a name. >>> >>> If there is any question of validity in a count, it can be verified, >>> fairly quickly. >>> >>> >>> >>> Covid built us a system to have a secure vote. Inadvertant side effects >>> are the best side effects. >>> >>> You register, you are assigned your key. Your registration can be >>> verified legitimate. You can even vote online. The tracing infrastructure >>> can be used to canvass a contested district for verification of vote >>> accuracy. >>> >>> >>> >>> This is the last election where fraud can be claimed... inadvertant, as >>> is most of the left's mistakes >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 12:20 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> The advantage to that is that the records will probably last a long >>> time. OTOH, storage might become an issue. >>> >>> bp >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 11/9/2020 10:16 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>> >>> In our county, we have to quarry a stone tablet, cart it down to the >>> office, make an X with a tar crayon, and be able to lift on to the ballet >>> cart to have the vote count. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>> >>> Our county typically uses touchscreen machines for in-person voting, >>> both early and day-of. (A paper tape record is also printed out and can be >>> verified by the voter) Obviously these are very quick to process. >>> >>> >>> >>> Early voting sites were open for 15 days prior to the election. In >>> addition, there was one early voting site open 40 days prior to the >>> election, but it used paper ballots. Basically you filled out the same >>> form as a mail-in ballot, sealed it, and dropped it in a box. That’s how I >>> voted and I was disappointed that was the process, I thought they would >>> scan them through a “tabulator” as the last step, just like back when we >>> used paper ballots for day-of voting. I expected as the last step before >>> leaving I would feed the paper ballot into a scanner. Instead I sealed it >>> in an envelope and dropped it in a box. >>> >>> >>> >>> All the paper ballots including early in-person and mail-in were >>> required to sit in the locked boxes until something like 7am on election >>> day before they could start processing them. This was apparently also the >>> case in many battleground states. They weren’t even allowed to open the >>> envelopes, uncrease the forms, check signatures, nothing. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 9:52 AM >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>> >>> >>> >>> In our county (and I have no idea if this is the norm in the rest of the >>> state), they count them as they come in, but hold the results in a secure >>> area until the close of the in-person polls. Ballots that are postmarked >>> (if they were mailed) up until the day of the election will be accepted for >>> a certain amount of time, but I don't know how long that is. >>> >>> We also have an online ballot tracking system. After we dropped our >>> ballots off, we could go to a ballot status web site that told us (1) if >>> the ballot had been received, and (2) if it had been accepted. It took 48 >>> hours for our ballots to show up in that system. I presume if our ballots >>> had not been accepted, there is some sort of mechanism to go fix that, but >>> I've never had to use it. >>> >>> >>> >>> bp >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 11/9/2020 7:25 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> >>> Yes, some states are doing exactly that. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Adam Moffett >>> >>> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 8:09 AM >>> >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>> >>> >>> >>> Scan them as they go, but don't publish the ongoing count. >>> >>> On 11/8/2020 4:45 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> >>> I think vote by mail and scan them as they arrive is the way to go. >>> That way when the polls close you have an immediate count. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Bill Prince >>> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 2:38 PM >>> >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>> >>> >>> >>> The whole punch card voting "system" was doomed from the beginning. I >>> remember using it when I lived in Santa Clara County 30 years ago or so. >>> Even when you punched out a hole properly, the chads would sometime stick >>> or hang on a corner. >>> >>> For quite some time now, we've been using the paper ballots where you >>> fill in the square or the circle. >>> >>> I've also been registered as a permanent absentee for over a decade. >>> When I voted (almost a month ago now), we filled out our ballots at the >>> kitchen counter, and took them to a drop box the next day when we were >>> running errands in town. The actual act of "voting" (if you want to call it >>> that) took less than 1 minute as we just dropped the ballots off at one of >>> dozens of drop boxes all over the county.Our county has (IIRC) 39 drop >>> boxes for a population of ~~ 750,000, or about 1 drop box for every 20,000 >>> people. >>> >>> Pennsylvania still hasn't started counting the late arrival absentee >>> ballots. All of the ones they've counted so far arrived before November 3, >>> but for reasons I don't understand were not allowed to be counted until >>> after the day-of voting. From the things I've read, there are only about >>> 85,000 of them, and they are unlikely to do anything but extend Biden's >>> cushion. >>> >>> I (for one) would be in favor of uniform voting/counting standards. >>> Perhaps it would be a violation of state's rights, but on the other hand, >>> there would be a lot less confusion when the time for voting comes around. >>> >>> >>> >>> bp >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 11/8/2020 11:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>> Stop the vote in Pennsylvania but keep counting in Arizona. It’s a >>> Maxwell’s Demon approach. Open the door when it helps me, close the door >>> when it helps the other guy. >>> >>> That’s probably why the Supremes stopped the recounts in Bush v Gore, >>> the Gore camp wanted to keep looking for errors but only in the counties >>> where they thought it would help them. But also the votes had already been >>> counted (and recounted). And there was the original Florida Man, some guy >>> named Hanging Chad? And the phone call and the retraction. >>> >>> Democrats to this day take it as gospel that Gore was robbed. That does >>> not bode well for half the country moving on from this election. >>> >>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 12:02 PM >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>> >>> In Michigan we're demanding a recount. In Wisconsin we're demanding a >>> decount. In Georgia it's opposites day. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LmFVEi5Jd0 >>> >>> bp >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 11/7/2020 8:27 PM, justsumname wrote: >>> >>> The declaration that Biden has won is premature. This thing hasn't >>> really gotten started yet. >>> >>> Judges don't hold court on the weekends. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:40 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes good movie. >>> >>> More akin to today is Seven Days in May...March, Douglas, Lancaster... >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 4:22 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>> >>> The Founding Fathers didn’t account for the rise of political parties, >>> which came soon enough. >>> >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College#Original_plan >>> >>> Somehow I’m reminded of the movie The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. Set >>> in the fading days of the old west with territories becoming states and >>> deciding who to elect as their representatives. Should it be Jimmy Stewart >>> the righteous lawyer, or Lee Marvin the outlaw gang leader? The old >>> fashioned idea that you sent the brightest and best educated person to >>> Washington to represent you. Hah! Politicians are not held in great >>> esteem today, and we would probably vote for Liberty Valance. I assume >>> everyone has seen the movie. It’s an old John Ford western, in fact he >>> shot it in B&W, but it’s a must see. Look at the cast – Jimmy Stewart, >>> John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, Andy Devine, Edmond O’Brien, John >>> Caradine, Lee Van Cleef. >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:46 PM >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>> >>> The three-fifths compromise was enacted long before California existed. >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-fifths_Compromise >>> >>> >>> >>> bp >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 11/7/2020 12:54 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>> >>> Uhhhh. No. The EC was created so that California has the same voice >>> power as Rhode Island. >>> >>> On Nov 7, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Could have been over on Tuesday if we didn't have the silly Electoral >>> College shenanigans; which actually evolved from the crazy slave is 3/5 of >>> a person nonsense. Here we are ~~ 250 years later and we're still dealing >>> with decisions we made about slaves. >>> >>> bp >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 11/7/2020 11:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: >>> >>> We have spoken. >>> >>> Righteous Indignation >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Lewis Bergman >>> >>> 325-439-0533 Cell >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > > -- > Lewis Bergman > 325-439-0533 Cell > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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