I am still really confused as is my distributor.

Are these two different products or is the X just the name for the management 
software that has a pay for future model?

Is there anything we are losing that we currently have today if we don’t start 
paying for this product that I know nothing about other than through this 
mailing list?

> On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:54 PM, John Seaman via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Assuming the powercode integration is handled through API, yes – that 
> requires X.  Also correct on payment gateways.  It’s currently flagged as a 
> “Pro” feature, so that means you’ll need an X subscription to use the feature 
> going forward.
>  
> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 12:33 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
>  
> Will those with powercode integration on on premise break then?
>  
> And no more payment gateways on captive portal?
>  
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 2:26 PM John Seaman via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, standard cnMaestro is still free for SM and AP. Here’s the complete list 
> of what you get with the free version (the first column)  vs. cnMaestro X.  
> https://cdn.cambiumnetworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/cnMaestro-X-Features-Pricing-Aug-2020-final.pdf
>  
> cnMaestro X has all the same features as the free version but it also has 
> additional features not available in the free version.
>  
>  
> From: Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:54 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> Cc: John Seaman <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
>  
> But this is only if using X correct?  Standard maestro will continue to be 
> free for SM and AP?
>  
> I’m confused. What does this X provide that standard doesn’t and why are free 
> features in standard now pay in X?
>  
> 
> On Dec 8, 2020, at 1:44 PM, John Seaman via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> That’s correct.  FWB is fixed wireless broadband.  So for wisps there are two 
> pricing components: SMs (referred to as tier 1) & APs/PTP (referred to tier 
> 2).  SMs are less expensive than the APs.  For example, for the three year 
> subscription the SM MSRP is $16 (or $5.33 per year) and APs are $60 ($20 per 
> year).  As for PTP, this includes the sub 6 GHz backhauls like the PTP 670 
> and 550 (cnMaestro does not yet support PTP 820).    Pricing for enterprise 
> Wi-Fi/enterprise gear follows the third schedule, referred to as Tier 3. 
>  
> Again, keep in mind that an X subscription also comes along with Cambium Care 
> Pro which is a 24/7 enhanced tech support service.   Standard tech support 
> (8x5) is still free.
>  
> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 6:34 AM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
>  
> FWB could be Fixed Wireless Broadband?
>  
> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 7:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
>  
> If your friend with benefits wants money then they're a prostitute.
> 
> On 12/8/2020 3:21 AM, Ryan Ray wrote:
> also what's a FWB? I keep reading it as friends with benefits so you get to 
> be a friend with benefits if you pay the fee.
>  
>  
>  
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:19 AM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
> If I'm reading it right we use PTP, AP, soon to be 60GHz ptmp when it 
> arrives, so we'll be paying $90 per device? for 5 year? but an AP may not 
> last that long but we still have to keep track of it. 
>  
> It seems confusing. Maybe just because I don't understand it. 
>  
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:17 AM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm a little confused on pricing tiers. Can you explain these in more detail 
> John
>  
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>  
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 6:17 PM Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote:
> I believe "config push" will still be a free feature.  At least this is what 
> John alluded to earlier - and I don't see it listed as a "PRO" feature when I 
> login.
>  
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:04 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> Id like to know the pricing on long term data and multi tenant. I was reading 
> the manual on multitenant and so excited then went to do it and was like 
> damn, kick me in the balls. we are cloud
>  
> I cant get SAS to set up right now, but if you do CBRS its more than config 
> pushes (also not free)
>  
> Does on prem let you do long term data?
>  
> CnMaestro is like Linkplanner, the product is too good to be completely free, 
> there has to be some revenue for support and new feature engagement. Its 
> along the lines of when Unimus was way to cheap to be sustainable
>  
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:23 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
> I thought it was clear from the beginning that there would be separate free 
> and paid versions.
> 
>  
> 
> On 12/7/2020 6:20 PM, John Seaman via AF wrote:
> No, cnMaestro is definitely not EOL.  Basic (free) cnMaestro and X are both 
> here to stay.
> You can download the feature list here.
> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/cnmaestro-x/
> It’s notable that X also comes with 24x7 Cambium Care Pro as a value add.
> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:16 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] cnmaestro X
>  
> So does this mean the current cnMaestro will be EOL?
>  
> I can’t find a list of pay vs free features for X. 
>  
> 
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Steve D <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Near as I can tell, for us, it's going to be something we only use for 
> pushing mass-config changes and firmware.  I might even pull back support 
> access if we really do lose audit logs.
>  
> I'll miss the reports it generated.  (At least, whenever our on-prem version 
> is deemed at the point we *have* to upgrade it...)
>  
> Since we always kind of knew it might happen (hoped not) we never put all our 
> eggs into the basket, so to speak.  I think it'll still be a useful tool, 
> just less so going forward.
>  
> -Steve D
>  
>  
>  
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie <[email protected]> wrote:
> Now that Cambium has me for +2000 subs on cnmaestro, what am I going to lose 
> if I don't go to X?
>  
> What do we gain if we do migrate and how much a month/per sub?
> hank you for being a part of the cnMaestro beta program and your feedback on 
> the Pro features. Cambium Networks is proud to announce the release of 
> cnMaestro X this month, including the Pro features you are using today.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Starting January 4th, you will have the option to turn on cnMaestro X for a 
> 90-day trial. On April 5th, your account will downgrade to the free version 
> of cnMaestro if you do not wish to upgrade to cnMaestro X.  
> 
> Below are a few cnMaestro X highlights:
> 
> Support for Software Defined Radios, high-density Wi-Fi APs, and the new 
> 60GHz PTP solution
> Long term historical data
> MSP features including managed tenant accounts & branding
> API and webhooks
> Higher limits for ePSK, admin accounts, and captive portals
>  
> 
> Please contact your distributor or partner for pricing details. 
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>  
>  
> Christy Meaney
> 
> 847-264-2198
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