I think the X ship has sailed… no turning back to Pro. I like X. It
sounds edgy J
*From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of * Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:54 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
Is it too late to call it PRO instead of X? Seems like that could have
saved a lot of trouble.
Naming things has never been Cambium’s strength. Look at the PMP 450
model numbers. And going from FW version 16 to 20, what’s that about,
is it like Windows 95? I kind of thought cnMaestro X was version number
X like Super Bowl X or Mac OS X.
*From:* AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*On Behalf Of *Sam Lambie
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 3:59 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
Thank you John for the information. I feel better now!
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 2:47 PM John Seaman via AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
It’s not really two different products. Think of it as a Freemium
model. You can create a free account in cnMaestro cloud anytime,
and start using it. Alternatively you can also download the on-prem
version and start using it (also free).
If you want the advanced features, then you need a subscription.
As a wisp, you get all the essential functionality for free, with
the basic version. These essential functions include the following
(some of these are Wi-Fi related):
·Device onboarding
·Monitoring
·Configuring
·Notifications – alarms & events
·Basic captive portal
·Dashboard
·Device inventory
·Network topology
·SW updates
·Maps
·Wireless & wired client view
·Floor plan
·Moving APs between sites
·Remote packet capture/debug, WiFi Analyzer, NW
·Connectivity
·Link test
·Performance KPIs
·RF Quality
·Satellite view
·Email notification
The free features are pretty much everything you need unless you
want to use the API functionality and a couple others. For wisps,
cnMaestro X provides the following “paid” features that will be of
interest to some: APIs, Reports, audit logs. Most of the other X
features are more related to enterprise Wi-Fi like advanced captive
portals, MSP (multi tenancy), and others. And, you also get premium
tech support (24x7, quick escalation) with a subscription to X.
All of these X features have been identified within cnMaestro with a
“Pro” flag for the last few years. It has been no secret that
Cambium has always been planning to eventually start charging for
the Pro features. That time has finally come, although instead of
naming it cnMaestro Pro, it’s named cnMaestro X.
Matt feel free to give me a call to discuss.
John
858-335-4384
*From:* Matt Hoppes <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 1:01 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Cc:* John Seaman <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
I am still really confused as is my distributor.
Are these two different products or is the X just the name for the
management software that has a pay for future model?
Is there anything we are losing that we currently have today if we
don’t start paying for this product that I know nothing about other
than through this mailing list?
On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:54 PM, John Seaman via AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Assuming the powercode integration is handled through API, yes –
that requires X. Also correct on payment gateways. It’s currently
flagged as a “Pro” feature, so that means you’ll need an X
subscription to use the feature going forward.
*From:* AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 12:33 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
Will those with powercode integration on on premise break then?
And no more payment gateways on captive portal?
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 2:26 PM John Seaman via AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yes, standard cnMaestro is still free for SM and AP. Here’s the
complete list of what you get with the free version (the first
column) vs. cnMaestro X.
https://cdn.cambiumnetworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/cnMaestro-X-Features-Pricing-Aug-2020-final.pdf
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cnMaestro X has all the same features as the free version but it
also has additional features not available in the free version.
*From:* Matt Hoppes <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:54 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Cc:* John Seaman <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
But this is only if using X correct? Standard maestro will
continue to be free for SM and AP?
I’m confused. What does this X provide that standard doesn’t and
why are free features in standard now pay in X?
On Dec 8, 2020, at 1:44 PM, John Seaman via AF
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
That’s correct. FWB is fixed wireless broadband. So for
wisps there are two pricing components: SMs (referred to as
tier 1) & APs/PTP (referred to tier 2). SMs are less
expensive than the APs. For example, for the three year
subscription the SM MSRP is $16 (or $5.33 per year) and APs
are $60 ($20 per year). As for PTP, this includes the sub 6
GHz backhauls like the PTP 670 and 550 (cnMaestro does not
yet support PTP 820). Pricing for enterprise
Wi-Fi/enterprise gear follows the third schedule, referred
to as Tier 3.
Again, keep in mind that an X subscription also comes along
with Cambium Care Pro which is a 24/7 enhanced tech support
service. Standard tech support (8x5) is still free.
*From:* AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 6:34 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
FWB could be Fixed Wireless Broadband?
*From:* AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 7:23 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
If your friend with benefits wants money then they're a
prostitute.
On 12/8/2020 3:21 AM, Ryan Ray wrote:
also what's a FWB? I keep reading it as friends with
benefits so you get to be a friend with benefits if you
pay the fee.
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:19 AM Ryan Ray
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
If I'm reading it right we use PTP, AP, soon to be
60GHz ptmp when it arrives, so we'll be paying $90
per device? for 5 year? but an AP may not last that
long but we still have to keep track of it.
It seems confusing. Maybe just because I don't
understand it.
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:17 AM Ryan Ray
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm a little confused on pricing tiers. Can you
explain these in more detail John
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On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 6:17 PM Josh Baird
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I believe "config push" will still be a free
feature. At least this is what John alluded
to earlier - and I don't see it listed as a
"PRO" feature when I login.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:04 PM Steve Jones
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Id like to know the pricing on long term
data and multi tenant. I was reading the
manual on multitenant and so excited
then went to do it and was like damn,
kick me in the balls. we are cloud
I cant get SAS to set up right now, but
if you do CBRS its more than config
pushes (also not free)
Does on prem let you do long term data?
CnMaestro is like Linkplanner, the
product is too good to be completely
free, there has to be some revenue for
support and new feature engagement. Its
along the lines of when Unimus was way
to cheap to be sustainable
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:23 PM Adam
Moffett <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I thought it was clear from the
beginning that there would be
separate free and paid versions.
On 12/7/2020 6:20 PM, John Seaman
via AF wrote:
No, cnMaestro is definitely not
EOL. Basic (free) cnMaestro and
X are both here to stay.
You can download the feature
list here.
https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/cnmaestro-x/
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It’s notable that X also comes
with 24x7 Cambium Care Pro as a
value add.
*From:* AF
<[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]>
*On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
*Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020
3:16 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* [ External ] Re:
[AFMUG] cnmaestro X
So does this mean the current
cnMaestro will be EOL?
I can’t find a list of pay vs
free features for X.
On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:59 PM,
Steve D <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Near as I can tell, for us,
it's going to be something
we only use for pushing
mass-config changes and
firmware. I might even pull
back support access if we
really do lose audit logs.
I'll miss the reports it
generated. (At least,
whenever our on-prem version
is deemed at the point we
*have* to upgrade it...)
Since we always kind of knew
it might happen (hoped not)
we never put all our eggs
into the basket, so to
speak. I think it'll still
be a useful tool, just less
so going forward.
-Steve D
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:30
PM Sam Lambie
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Now that Cambium has me
for +2000 subs on
cnmaestro, what am I
going to lose if I don't
go to X?
What do we gain if we do
migrate and how much a
month/per sub?
hank you for being a
part of the cnMaestro
beta program and your
feedback on the Pro
features. Cambium
Networks is proud to
announce the release of
cnMaestro X this month,
including the Pro
features you are using
today.
Starting January 4th,
you will have the option
to turn on cnMaestro X
for a 90-day trial. *On
April 5th*, your account
will downgrade to the
free version of
cnMaestro if you do not
wish to upgrade to
cnMaestro X.
*Below are a few
cnMaestro X highlights:*
1. Support for Software
Defined Radios,
high-density Wi-Fi
APs, and the new
60GHz PTP solution
2. Long term historical
data
3. MSP features
including managed
tenant accounts &
branding
4. API and webhooks
5. Higher limits for
ePSK, admin
accounts, and
captive portals
Please contact your
distributor or partner
for pricing details.
Thanks!
Christy Meaney
847-264-2198
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